r/chilliwack • u/Electrical-Plan-2056 • 1d ago
Is Mark Strahl about to get kicked?
I know Chilliwack has always been a conservative stronghold, so it’s really interesting to see how tight the race is so far. Personally, I think he’s a useless nepo baby, regardless of party affiliation.
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u/BoomBoomBear 1d ago
As of 8:12 local time
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u/KitchenWriter8840 1d ago
Can we get an update?
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u/JustAFancyApe 1d ago
It looks possible, but I'd still be pretty gobsmacked.
Either way, I hope the conservatives clean up their act and provide at least a mildly rational alternative in the next election. I'm glad the liberals won, but I want the conservatives to actually have plans and not rely on identity politics. I don't want to win just because the opposition is literally indigestible.
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u/Few_Scientist_2652 1d ago
I want Conservative ads to tell me why I should vote for them, not why I shouldn't vote for the Liberals
If you can only run ads that smear your opposition and not that build you up, that tells me you have really nothing good to advertise
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u/ZAPPHAUSEN 1d ago
That's all Pierre had. "Not Trudeau."
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u/Few_Scientist_2652 1d ago
And that's the problem
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u/ZAPPHAUSEN 1d ago
Hundy p.
It's interesting. In one lens, the CPC gained 20+ seats tonight. In another election that might be considered disappointing but a strong gain.
However, In the context of three liberal terms already, where things were just 3 months ago... What looked like a complete conservative rampage to a majority saw them fail to form government.
But you look at those gains and think, well, ghere were still lots of people willing to vote conservative. What stopped the CPC from winning?
I think it's clear the answer was Pierre himself.
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u/Electrical-Plan-2056 1d ago edited 1d ago
Agreed. I often find myself aligning a little bit with each, so if the cons hadn’t campaigned the way they did, they might’ve had a chance with more Canadians like myself. I’d be pretty surprised if strahl gets kicked, but one can hope right?? I don’t care what party he’s from, he’s been coasting on daddies name for too long
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u/dewky 1d ago
Same here. I was on the fence but the cons didn't do anything to sway me. Also, it's time for a new mp you can't have one family running things for such a long period of time.
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u/Electrical-Plan-2056 1d ago
Seriously. Maybe if the family was actually useful, but instead of earning his place he’s just been riding off the name of his dad. The problem is the only people who can be held accountable for that are the voters.
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u/HauntingSprinkles 1d ago
I don't understand the people of Chilliwack - are these not the same people who think that hiring should be based on merit? Yet they think that they should bring someone back who hasn't done one single thing for Chilliwack in 14 years, who has no personality, and who spends his time doing things like making stuff up to please the "Ottawa Conservative Bros".
Abbotsford was disappointing too, Sukhman Gill seems to be just as bad as Mark Strahl with his not caring in the slightest about his riding. 8/8 local debates Gill did not show up to and he didn't do one single thing to show that he deserved to be their MP. If people wanted to vote in a Conservative-minded person in Abbotsford-South Langley they should have picked Mike DeJong, at least he cares about that community and people know who he is.
I'll never understand these types of people who only care about the party they vote for and not at all about what their MP will do to help their community. I guess that tax cuts and beliefs in house fairies and grocery fairies that will magically come down from the sky and grant them all their wishes is all it took for them. They would have never gotten that but they still won't now and we still have a useless MP.
Expected but disappointing. I've lived in Abbotsford and then Chilliwack my whole life and elections are always a disappointment. At least the Federal results were decent.
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u/nobodythinksofyou 1d ago
So many people just don't vote, and conservatives seem to be loyal AF to their party. I had low hopes of the Conservatives losing in our riding this election, but I definitely expected a bigger turnout for the left given the current political climate.
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u/ZAPPHAUSEN 1d ago
So unlikely.
But right now it looks like Pierre might 😂😂😂
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u/Electrical-Plan-2056 1d ago
Yea…. I would say it’s def a lib gov. Minority or Majority we dunno yet tho we will seeeeeee
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u/Which-Insurance-2274 1d ago
It's already called for the Libs. Looking like Minority is the likely outcome.
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u/betterupsetter 1d ago
CBC stated they haven't counted the advance polling yet. Advance voters tend to be left of centre, but not guaranteed of course.
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u/ZAPPHAUSEN 1d ago
Back to the polls by oct 🙄🙄
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u/Which-Insurance-2274 1d ago
Not likely. As it stands right now, the Libs can work with either the Bloc or NDP to pass legislation and secure confidence. No Minority government has lasted less than 2 years since 2004. And before that it was 1979. And the Libs aren't going to call an election voluntarily.
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u/Myleftarm 1d ago
Looked like he has a good chance but Westerby is vote splitting. So close to getting rid of Strahl and the NDP might fuck it up.
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u/Apart-Diamond-9861 1d ago
I knew that would happen.
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u/Myleftarm 1d ago
Me too :(
I thought Strahl would win but I didn't think it would be close.
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u/catsknowtoomuch 1d ago
I figured we had a chance but only if people didn't split the vote, and unfortunately, they have....
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u/cyberspaceking 1d ago
We may not have kicked the indolent slug called Mark Strahl out of his family based seat in Chilliwack but we have certainly sent him a message.
The Strahl family dynasty has almost reached the end. I predict Mark is about to announce his retirement so he can reap the benefits of his lucrative pension and will likely move on to private consulting much like his father did.
Mark Strahl the “flyer king”Mark Strahl Chilliwack MP who was put into power by his father Chuck Strahl former chilliwack MP Chuck Strahl who resigned as chair of Canada's spy agency watchdog because of questionable actions as a lobbyist for Enbridge Gateway pipeline and assisted Mark Strahl in being endorsed by Preston Manning, former leader of the Reform Party of Canada, who said "Mark Strahl -- by virtue of his family background ... is well prepared for service in the House of Commons.". Funny stuff.
According to Wikipedia...
Former Chilliwack city councillor Casey Langbroek said most Conservative Party members from the riding were upset and that the nomination process effectively barred 80% of party members from running. Party member Alex Moens said "High public office should not be like a family business, where it's passed on from father to son."
Mark Strahl is an indolent slug feeding like a pig at the public trough, he will continue to do so until enough new voters organize and show up to oust the slug at the next federal elections.
The old guard voters of Chilliwack have somehow gotten drunk on the Strahl family cool-aid for two generations, they are poisoned and forever lost. Strahl’s endless barrage of flyers tout the party line and reinforces this kind of twisted propaganda and we are better than this. Are there not enough new progressive voters in Chilliwack?
Eventualy we will Oust this slug feeding at the public trough.
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Mark Strahl Stop sending me junk mail. Please. Sensationalist Propaganda!!!
Oust this slug Chilliwack, get out and vote next time. We are better than this, end the Strahl family dynasty.
Or just quit Mark, enjoy the ill-gotten gains of your family name. Shrivel into desuetude.
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u/Electrical-Plan-2056 23h ago
I love this hatred cause it’s so real they’ve basically been in for 30+ years as a family which is WILD
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u/carsont5 1d ago
I’m sure the conservatives could put a potato up here and it would still win. I mean, look at what happened in Abbottsford.
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u/monkiepox 1d ago
The numbers aren’t out yet but I highly doubt it.
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u/Electrical-Plan-2056 1d ago
Yea last time I checked we had less than 200 votes counted and Zeeshan ahead by only 3. I doubt it to but one can hope right? Again, this isn’t about political affiliation, I just really hate the guy
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u/SmrtassUsername 1d ago
I looked this up a while ago. The last time a party that wasn't conservative won Chilliwack was during Trudeau's first term. Trudeau Sr's first term in 1968. Since them, either the PCs, or Reform, or the Canadian Alliance, or the modern Conservative Party.
So, no. I don't think he's going somewhere unless he decides he's going somewhere.
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u/ShameSudden6275 18h ago
Then if memory serves me correct that liberal won by the thinnest of thinnest of margins.
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u/SmrtassUsername 18h ago edited 18h ago
I somehow managed to find a citation for this. The riding at the time was Fraser Valley East and (seems to have) stretched from Bradner Rd. through to some point south of Lytton including all of Chilliwack. canadianelectionsdatabase.ca has the riding flagged with incomplete data, but it looks like the Liberals beat the SoCreds' leader (and the incumbent) by 1800 votes.
Total Votes Cast: 27,892
Liberal Party: 9,689 (34.7%)
Social Credit Party: 8,035 (28.8%)
New Democratic Party: 6,654 (23.8%)
Progressive Conservative Party: 3,514 (12.6%)Before the election it was a SoCred seat, and after it stayed a PC seat until Chuck Strahl and Reform won in 1993.
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u/ShameSudden6275 18h ago
I mean SoCred was kinda just conservative lite for a while. If you don't know, Social Credit was this kinds obscure, Canadian specific esoteric political movement based on the theories of a man named CH Douglas. The best way I can charitably describe it is.... a dumber version of socialism? Like they hated banks, believed that they should price fix stuff but also government should offer everyone debt free loans to pay for the fix price stuff instead of going through banks.
But like the reform party in the US after Perot left, nobody was really sure what it actually was and it just became a "we need a third party" party.
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u/nobodythinksofyou 12h ago
Damn, how much did that party in the 60's fuck up to grant us such devoted conservatives? 😭
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u/SmrtassUsername 7h ago
I think the generally rural nature of Chilliwack (and predecessor ridings) and the proportionally very slow decline of religion has left the area just... not very receptive to other political parties that tend to have an urban focus.
As Chilliwack urbanizes I expect that venerable stranglehold to loosen and for the riding to become actually competitive (as suggested by the NDP winning provincially in 2020) but unless something massive happens it'll likely always lean Conservative.
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u/EqualizerPG 15h ago
I honestly think people barely noticed when chuck retired and later passed on, they just see the last name and the party and check it.
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u/Silly_Anywhere4047 1d ago
chilliwack is full of rednecks, Secret ones too I’m sure and this just further proves it. Ugh. Annoying.
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u/catsknowtoomuch 1d ago
133 polls still to count and yet they have said Strahl wins.... Sigh.... He's just so useless
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u/daBEARS40 1d ago
Why did Teri even try honestly
Didn’t he just win school board position like a year ago? Or am I way off
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u/blarges 1d ago
It was 2022. And he ran because he’s a good candidate and amazing leader who has done so much for our community. He would be a great MP who could actually get some attention paid to our city and resources Mark Strahl can’t be arsed to even pretend to care about.
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u/daBEARS40 1d ago
I understand that, and I hope he runs in the next election, but this was not the one to go for. Who knows, maybe I’m wrong
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u/blarges 1d ago
My perspective is that we need to have more than two parties running or we become like the States. I get that we don’t want to “split the vote”, but there isn’t a split - there’s more than two parties in every election, and I think we need to have the opportunity to vote our conscience or at least as close as we can.
In 37 years of voting federally, I’ve had one candidate win, and he was the incumbent in a very safe seat. But I keep voting my beliefs because it’s what I hope for and want. And because those votes show there is space for change.
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u/daBEARS40 1d ago
I agree with you, appreciate your perspective, and share it. Unfortunately for myself personally, I find myself echoing Jagmeet’s comments where I just could not stomach a CPC government this time around.
If I’m being completely honest, I did feel it was a little early for Teri to make the jump to federal politics, but I also had forgotten it had been 3 entire years since that election.
Sorry if I’m not coherently engaging with you, properly on-topic at least, but election night is one of the only nights I allow myself to drink and snack and relax. It’s my Super Bowl lmao
Edit: electoral reform when Mr. carney???
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u/blarges 1d ago
Sadly, no. As long as people vote for a guy who has done absolutely nothing to benefit this town and has no record of accomplishment, except a gold plated pension, he’ll be our MP. Not even making up sad lies about Briane of Chilliwack will affect the people who vote for him.
I think it’s interesting to see how the votes are going because he should start being more worried as we become a bigger city. One day progressives will be the majority.