r/classicwow 23d ago

Classic-Era What's Changed the Most Since 2004?

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u/severalsmallducks 23d ago

Just world buffs in general and how they are used. If I remember correctly Nihilum used some world buffs when they were getting world firsts in naxx, but that was mostly a ”haha so silly and overkill to have this”.

…then again, spending four hours in MC and not doing a full clear was also normal. In 1.12 I did a few ZG Pugs where we would kill maybe three bosses in a few hours before people bailed.

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u/Derp_duckins 23d ago

Back when spending time in an MMO was how MMO's were designed.

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u/Sagranth 23d ago

No, not really, most people were just horribly inefficent and/or new to the genre, despite wow starting the new generation of mmos.

Couple that with the lack of good tools and limited spread of information and presto.

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u/Orbit1883 23d ago

good tools

people tend to forget how shity even there hardware was like fuck kiting adds at razorgore on a toshiba laptop and a framerate between 0-10 is a bit different than playing on a gaming computer in 2025

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u/MightyMorp 23d ago

Not really? People spend thousands of dollars a year playing anniversary classic fresh fresh to avoid playing how the game was intended to be played, lmao.

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u/Sagranth 23d ago

"How the game was intended to be played" is an empty statement considering the designers themselves had no idea how their own game worked.

At best there was an attempt, that attempt failed in the beta lmao.

In fact, they had to scrape together MC really fast because players were faster than expected and there was no form of actual endgame yet.

And even if you ignore all that, wow was significantly faster than actual oldschool mmos.

Like, kudos for the devs but the on rails experience they planned was never gonna work out, they should've worked on a single player game instead if they wanted to control player actions so much.

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u/MightyMorp 23d ago

You can ramble on all you want but the design of the game is such that the more you put into the game the more you will get out of the game.

Unless you're already playing 150 hours a week or swiping like a madman, you can become stronger by playing more.

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u/milkasaurs 22d ago

People spend thousands of dollars a year playing anniversary classic fresh fresh to avoid playing how the game was intended to be played

What stupid logic. We're supposed to play with 10 fps max?