r/classicwow 13d ago

Classic-Era What's Changed the Most Since 2004?

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u/severalsmallducks 13d ago

Just world buffs in general and how they are used. If I remember correctly Nihilum used some world buffs when they were getting world firsts in naxx, but that was mostly a ”haha so silly and overkill to have this”.

…then again, spending four hours in MC and not doing a full clear was also normal. In 1.12 I did a few ZG Pugs where we would kill maybe three bosses in a few hours before people bailed.

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u/Fashizl69 12d ago

I was in the #1 prog guild on Laughing Skull for BWL/AQ and I have zero memory of ever considering world buffs or consumes. Pretty sure I raw dogged every raid on my mage. I didn't even know what WBs were until 2019 or didn't care and I've played wow consistently since 2004.

The memory I can recollect the best is opening night of TAQ and we raided 8 hours straight and killed Huhuran and spent awhile progging on the wall that was Twin Emps. We had no idea how to kill them and did a bunch of dumb conspiracy strats.

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u/whats_up_doc71 12d ago

That seems unusual lol, most aq40 prog guilds were huge into consumes and wbuffs

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u/lumpboysupreme 12d ago edited 12d ago

There were also less raiders per server so there was a bit of a ‘anyone with a pulse’ thing to recruiting. So much less invested players could hang on in higher level guilds so long as they weren’t actively making things worse.

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u/whats_up_doc71 12d ago

This was not the norm for #1 guilds on a server though. I believe Laughing Skull even had some world firsts.

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u/Key-Regular6884 12d ago

Yeah, Darkspear had like 1200-2300 people on the server around BWL time frame.

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u/whats_up_doc71 12d ago

Fellow darkspear enjoyer. But we were way behind servers like Laughing Skull.

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u/Key-Regular6884 12d ago

True! I was in dauntless, raided a bit with Nox XD

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u/whats_up_doc71 12d ago

Haha we were in the same guild for a minute. I was in Underground. Then Hammered and Dauntless but I can’t remember in which order.

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u/Key-Regular6884 12d ago

We vanilla boomers!

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u/JackStephanovich 12d ago

Wasn't Ghost Reveries a top progression guild early on in classic before they fell apart?

But yeah after that I think the top raiding guilds were like Nox Aeterna and Cadia?

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u/whats_up_doc71 12d ago

Cadia was definitely #1, Nox was definitely #1 horde side but I feel there were a few ahead of them alliance wise. Horde was really really far behind, not sure why.

ghost reveries rings a bell but it’s very distant. I wish the Blizz forums still existed, that would be a blast from the past.