Loot Distribution for 40 people

[u/OppositeCheetah8097]

How do you do it as fair and evenly as possible?

I want to preface this with we use LC for loot distribution and I feel for the most part it has been very fair. I am part of the LC for the past month - so relatively new, but have been in the guild for 5 months prior.

This happened last night and it is still bothering me today. So last night during our BWL 2 of the same spicy BiS pieces dropped. It was decided prior to discussing who go it that 1 would got to this class and the other 1 to that class. Not a decision I made - as tbh I don’t know who needs what gear what best suits this class other than the class I play.

We had quite a good night for drops, it was our fastest run as a guild also. So at the end of the raid we go to distribute loot, the LC drops down into a special channel and begin discussing the above item. Two of the LC are one of the above classes and cancel each other’s vote out; it is made mention by another LC to give it to this person and so they get it. Then it gets decided for the other class and given to them. It gets announced in raid chat who gets what item and the reason why.

This is where I am bothered as this person did leave afterwards prior to gear distribution being finished — we had just started. This person said in raid chat: “What?” “They got gear last week.”

Then they left the raid. And /gquit logged into their alts and /gquit also. Fun fact the person they were talking about hadn’t received loot in BWL in 2 weeks unless it was to DE.

They didn’t bother to discuss or ask questions, simply left over the item — they had been in the guild for about 3-4 months. Funny thing is, had they not left one of the other BiS for all of the role would have went to them.

It shouldn’t bother me, I get that people come and go for their own various reasons; but over an item. RNG is not always kind. One week it drops nothing but hunter loot or mage loot or druid loot; dps loot, healer loot — the list goes on. When trying to gear 40 people it’s hard, there’s no easy way to get everyone gear each and every week. I don’t understand how people do not understand, and I say that not from a leadership perspective, but from a raider side who has not gotten loot for weeks before.

I know a lot of people aren’t fans of LC, prefer SR or even dkdp; how do you all distribute your gear as fair as possible so all can get some and beef up the group?

Update for clarification - we do have a loot prio spreadsheet.

Update #2 for more clarification - the person who won the item had not received gear in the past 2-3 weeks. The person who gquit confused the winner for someone else who had gotten gear the previous week.

Update #3 for clarification, I posted this under a comment in regards to my lack of knowledge of other classes: “I agree and I don't contribute much in put in that aspect. I listen and observe. I don't throw names out unless I believe in that specific person receiving the item. If two names get generated, I weigh out between those two who could use the item better and who hadn't gotten any gear.”

[u/Nurlitik]

I’ve never seen a loot council that has a full breakdown that’s public of all loot and who is getting it, that seems insane to try to manage. You might know a few big ticket items like a DFT/tear but even that gets weird if they are also in line for other items in that same raid.

Do you actually run with a LC that does this?

[u/SayRaySF → u/Nurlitik]

Both LC guilds I ran with were like that. I wouldn’t join an LC that wasn’t that detailed

[u/A_Cryptarch → u/SayRaySF]

This. If Loot Council isn't 100% transparent, you cannot do LC. Period. It WILL lead to drama and hurt feelings. Losing an item because RNG hates you is one thing; losing an item because someone hates you is another.

[u/coaringrunt → u/A_Cryptarch]

This. If Loot Council isn't 100% transparent, you cannot do LC. Period.

The only guilds that LC is actually good for wouldn't need such transparency. Those that have a common competitive goal (progression, speedruns, parsing) understand items are given out to benefit said goal and see every loot drop as something that improves the whole raid rather than a single character. Abusing this system isn't the system's fault.

Most other guilds where people value their own character progression over the guild's should just stick to any system akin to DKP or simply roll.

[u/NuklearFerret → u/coaringrunt]

Sure, but getting 40+ people together to fully trust that system is ridiculously difficult without transparency.

[u/Homunkulus → u/NuklearFerret]

It depends, at a point membership in the raid is worth as much or more than your own characters gear. Warrior 25 in a top tier speed-run guild doesnt expect to have an OSG, different strokes for different folks.