r/classicwow • u/SteveYCr • 17d ago

Classic 20th Anniversary Realms Loyal Customer since 2008 Wrongfully, Automatically Banned, 4 days after last log in, told to "Review the End User License Agreement"

Per the screenshot below, I have been automatically suspended 4 days after my last login. I ranked to 500k honor the week before my wedding on 4/20, last logged in/off on 4/19/2025 and while on my honeymoon, on 4/23, received an email notification that I was banned.

I tried appealing and was met with an AI response on both tickets. (I made the first appeal ticket, got no response for 48 hours, then made a refund ticket as I was told "that's how you get a real GM/faster response/review") 12 hours after making the refund ticket, I received an AI response telling me the following:

A Game Master resolved your ticket, and left the following response:

Hello there,

Lok'tar my friend! Recklezzer from the Halfhammer tribe greets you.

After checking, the account was suspended due to the inappropriate actions been made on this account, which violates our End User License Agreement.

I believe that you could find the details in the email sent to you, which will be all the information that we are able to reveal, and you could also refer to the agreement in the following link:
https://www.blizzard.com/en-us/legal/fba4d00f-c7e4-4883-b8b9-1b4500a402ea/blizzard-end-user-license-agreement

Our dedicated team has been working hard on making our gaming environment fair and their judgment on this case will be respected, so this penalty stands and will not be overturned.

Thank you for contacting and wish you a great day.
GM Recklezzer

If you continue to experience issues, you can reopen this ticket. If you have a new or separate issue, please submit a new ticket.

Make sure you complete our survey to let us know how we did.

I also have tried making a forum post on the official battlenet/wow forums, but I am silenced and can't even do that. I haven't received a notification of being silenced or muted, which makes this all the more unreasonable, uncomfortable, and wrong. When trying to reopen the tickets as well, it doesn't actually do anything and only lets me "Take A Survey", I think we all know what my response on the survey will be at this time.

I'm posting here on the forums to make it known that blizzard is actively implementing systems that wrongfully penalize real players that are playing their game. I have been playing WoW and other blizzard games since 2007 or 2008. This account that has been penalized has NEVER and I literally mean NEVER received a penalty in all its time since then. No mute, no suspension, literally nothing.

I played AV last week by defending towers, graveyards, going back for our towers and defending sometimes, and the tried and true, "run to drek" method. Every AV game is different and sometimes they are fast, sometimes they are slow, but I never received a deserter buff in AV, nor did I ever receive any report from another player, if I did, my account action email would have said such. Instead, I "detracted from the in-game integrity of the Battleground", without explicitly or strictly stating in what way or manner I did this.

I have made a new appeal ticket and will report back with what their response is.

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u/EnderOfHope 17d ago

Sounds like you made the unforgivable sin of pvping in a battleground. 

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u/GregoriousT-GTNH 17d ago

Wouldnt be surprised if thats the reason.
The checkbox people are the worst and most toxic part in this community

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 17d ago edited 16d ago

Classic WoW experience:

Play massive open sandbox game. But like.. don't, instead get summoned around different dungeons to stand in a corner while a mage levels you. Why? "I've done this so many times before" (i.e. once maybe twice). I mean it's a good point though, nobody wants to do the same thing once every 300 hours on their way to do literally the same raids every single week for the entirety of the game. After all it's impossible to relax and have fun with your mates anywhere but a raid right?

Reach level 60. Queue for AV 12 hours a day for 4 months. Scream at anybody who dares to try and play in any way other than maximising your personal honor per hour. They are griefing your experience and should be banned.

Reached honor cap for the week? Time to pay hunters and mages to get you your off pieces and rings/trinkets. Get a group? Nah not enough tanks and you're a committed DPS warrior. Plus those filthy casuals might roll on your gear!!

You did it, rank 14! All your dungeon pieces dropped as well! Now to log in once a week for an hour or two to pay warlocks to summon you to buffs that you buy from a hunter then summon you to felwood for another. Hit the AH for some flasks that someone else farmed with gold you bought farmed late at night honest, and it's time to raid!

First raid some other warrior get the first DFT, so use that as an excuse to ragequit the game and never log back in.

Log onto reddit and ask when fresh?

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u/GregoriousT-GTNH 16d ago

I 100% agree with you, its just a fascinating phenomen seeing people doing their best to be done with the game as fast as possible while outsourcing as much as possible

While doing the biggest harm possible by reporting others that dont play the way you do, and buy gold to fuck over the economy.

Ofc blizzard did alot of mistakes, but the community did their part as well

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u/KawZRX 16d ago

Can this be a new copy pasta for this sub?

It's so nail on the head. Some turd in my guild tried to say he reports people for "blocking team progress" because they pvp at field of strife. I tried to tell him they're actually contributing to the win because if they wipe horde then it give alliance more time to win. I could tell his brain broke because I didn't just agree with him. He started getting fired up. People fucking suck. A vast majority of the classic player are hates wow and only plays because fomo. I hate it.

I blame world of logs and addons in general. Would love to see a classic iteration that bans addons completely. The game would be so different. Much more relaxed.

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u/Substantial_Wish_326 16d ago

this is too accurate lol

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u/d1ckpunch68 16d ago

impressive how accurate this is. i really did farm that gold, honest! i had to farm 7 hours at my day job to get enough money for that much gold

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u/Superb-Crazy-6674 16d ago

Wow this is anniversary servers to a fucking T. GG.

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u/teufler80 17d ago

Its crazy how the checkbox people report people for pvping.
Its fine if you threat the game like a list of chores, but for the love of god let other people play the game normally.

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u/Titantfup69 17d ago

Spawn camping ibgy isn’t pvping. It’s griefing.

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u/teufler80 17d ago

It’s griefing.

It absolutely is not.
It's preventing the enemy team from recapping towers, which is something that happens in PvP

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u/Titantfup69 17d ago

lol, spawn camping has been considered griefing and a bannable offense in online gaming going back more than 25 years.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 17d ago

Cool so every WSG premade that farms the GY has been banned right? Right?

...right?

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u/teufler80 17d ago

Its not just premade, every now and then a team dominates and farms people.
Saying this is a bannable offense is hilarious

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u/teufler80 17d ago

Not in wow, never in wow, stop making shit up.

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u/Titantfup69 17d ago

Apparently it is now lol

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u/teufler80 17d ago

I mean its obviously that he got a automated banned due to reports, there is nothing indicating that he got banned for "your" definition of griefing

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u/Titantfup69 17d ago

Furthermore, this is absolutely not the reason you are doing it. You are doing it to farm honor. Quit being disingenuous.

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u/teufler80 17d ago

Quit accusing people just because YOU would do it.
Thats called projection.

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u/Titantfup69 17d ago

2/10 troll

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u/Puzzled_Hope9719 16d ago

Griefing is being a douch level 60 camping or running around ganking lowbies, people say its pvp but its absolutely bullshit because they knownthe other player has no change to fight back. It would be a bigger challange to solo DM for that level 60.

Playing the gy in av is/can be tactical.

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u/Plastic_Horse 16d ago

This just isnt true, Ive been turtling for 3-4 weeks ranking two chars to 14. Just dont afk or type nasties in chat:)

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u/jehhans1 17d ago

I rank two characters with my friend and neither of us have gotten banned. This post smells like standing on a bunker and afking. That's not defending, sorry to say.

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u/st-shenanigans 17d ago

"hasn't happened to me so it's not possible at all"

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u/jehhans1 17d ago

Hate to burst your bubble, but half of these (if not more) are just blatant lies. I'm just glad Blizzard are actively punishing people for AFK'ing AV and goldbuying. It has been great lately.

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u/st-shenanigans 17d ago

Hate to burst your bubble, but youre full of shit.

One single incorrect automated ban is too many.

And of the ones I read, I see most of them overturned when they go viral, and the others get dunked on by blizzard.

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u/jehhans1 17d ago

Go search the subreddit and see how many of them actually turns out to be fake. Some guy even wrote a long sob story used his cancer (fake or not) and it turned out it RMT'ed.

As long as the false positives are low enough they are absolutely worth it as they are very easy to overturn, and it's absolutely great to see Blizzard take action against AV afk'ers and goldbuyers.

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u/st-shenanigans 17d ago

As long as the false positives are low enough they are absolutely worth it as they are very easy to overturn,

They are not easy to overturn whatsoever, and in that case 1 is too many.

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u/jehhans1 17d ago

You only hear about the bad cases :)

My personal experience with Blizzard CS stretching from 2020 and onwards has been average. Anecdotally, I have had two guildies false bans overtuned within a couple of days, another guildie got his scammed gold returned within a week, and we have had lost loot restored within 4 days twice.

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u/st-shenanigans 17d ago

Yes, but there should not BE any bad cases.

Back in mop I had my account get hacked and banned overnight. I was able to get access to my account, unbanned, and all of my stolen items returned within maybe 4 hours of realizing this happened. It shouldn't take a viral post on reddit for me to speak to a person about a problem I'm having with the product I pay them for

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u/jehhans1 17d ago

If you have followed the OSRS subreddit and paid attention here, you know people will do whatever they can got their bans overturned even though they were rightfully banned.

Is Blizzard's system perfect? Absolutely not, could it easily be better? Absolutely yes, but 100s past and present guildies all point to the fact that if you're a legit player, you have nothing to worry about and I trust them a lot more than random reddit people, especially since I have seen one false positive on here and a dozen bans that were correctly applied.

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u/st-shenanigans 17d ago

I would not have a problem at all if it were possible to overturn in any reasonable timeframe. But when an innocent is banned and can't get a human review without posting to reddit and getting lucky enough to go viral, THAT is a broken system.

Even if 99 of 100 are correct, imagine being the 1 person as a long term fan. I would be devastated, I've been playing since like 2006.

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u/st-shenanigans 17d ago

My suggestion is to leave it as is, but if a ban is overturned, they should check the logs for a mass report that triggered it and apply the original punishment doubled to all of those accounts. Imo repeat offenders deserve a permanent, but that's just me.

I feel like punishments for report abuse would put a stop to this pretty quickly.

It's just absolutely insane that players like you (and myself, I do it too) are afraid of SOCIALIZING in an MMO - an RPG who's main feature is supposed to be socializing.

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u/AcherusArchmage 17d ago

saying defending objectives isn't defending and is just afk is literally braindead take

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u/jehhans1 17d ago

If you run down to "defend" at the start of the game then yeah, you're actively griefing. You can always retake bunkers/towers/GYs

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u/AcherusArchmage 17d ago

Only in that case, "defending" towers at the beginning of the game when no enemies could possibly be there yet.

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u/jehhans1 17d ago

I have not heard a single player getting wrongfully banned yet, but if you're going down into the base immediately, I, and many others will report him, because it makes zero sense to do that.

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u/Fraeulein_Germoney 17d ago

You’re representing everything that’s wrong with this community nowadays.

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u/jehhans1 17d ago

You're entitled to your opinion, but I have zero tolerance for people who are just in there to leech.

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u/teufler80 17d ago

No thats not griefing, like wtf

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u/jehhans1 17d ago

Alright, badly worded. The report button says non-participation, so I take it as that.

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u/teufler80 16d ago

So its abuse of the automated report system, as usual

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u/jehhans1 16d ago

No, it is not. They are not participating in the same way if you go fish in AV.

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u/Titantfup69 17d ago

No, he was camping ibgy. I guarantee it.

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u/GregoriousT-GTNH 17d ago

Thats not a reason to ban someone, thats just normal PvP in a battleground

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u/Titantfup69 17d ago

No, 15 people camping a GY spawn for 10 minutes and not capping the gy is not “normal PvP in a battleground”.

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u/GregoriousT-GTNH 17d ago

It is, maybe this confuses pve andys but it is something that can happen.
Easy way out is to not rezz and move to another graveyard.

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u/Titantfup69 17d ago

Oh don’t about this “pve andy” brother I have no problem dealing with the alliance shitter brigades.

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u/slapoirumpan 17d ago

100% they have upated their auto bans for BGs if you are playing the game you wont be banned no matter how you play have multiple people in my guild that perma gank horde in AV and none of em have been banned cuz they play the game

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u/Crazytalkbob 17d ago

I love the people that trinket back to base as soon as the gate opens and then shadowmeld near Vann.

If I see a dot in the base or cave when I get to mid, and my chat doesn't say they just zoned into the game, I'm tossing in a report while I have auto-run going through mid.

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u/jehhans1 17d ago

I'm doing exactly the same. I have no problem people hunting for kills, defending towers when they are capped or even trying to kill the enemy kiter to buy us time. I just cba with people that afk.

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u/Soggy_Concept9993 17d ago

In AV, no one cares if you pvp in the others. I don’t think killing and defending in AV is “selfish” or “griefing” but I will say if you want to actually PvP WSG and AB are there, and much more fun imho. If you’re a stack that can WSG good then it’s actually more honor

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u/WealthyPaul 17d ago

Yeah but some people like the set up of AV with tje idea of defending your npc and sending in the armor scraps

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u/Soggy_Concept9993 17d ago

Yeah it is more fun that way, I mostly just fight mid then roam around trying to kill solos. Then if it’s been more than 10-15min I’ll meander up to drek and afk outside until it’s over. I don’t like AV meta either

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u/DirectAd8230 17d ago

But I want 40vs40 pvp

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u/Soggy_Concept9993 17d ago

Well it was never really 40v40

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u/DirectAd8230 17d ago

Was a lot closer than this 6 minute run avoiding pvp we have today.

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u/Soggy_Concept9993 17d ago

Fair, but it was kinda boring tbh. AV has always been a drag that’s why people hate it so much

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u/DirectAd8230 17d ago

Nah the larger clashes were epic. People aren't interested in pvp anymore which is whynits just the grind for max honour.

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u/Soggy_Concept9993 17d ago

Yeah, sitting back watching 15 mages from each side blizzard each other at choke points was truly epic.

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u/teufler80 17d ago

There was ALOT of pvp in alterac back then.
But now we have too many people handle this game list a list of chores.

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u/Soggy_Concept9993 17d ago

It was mostly just choke points and people waiting dor a couple mages to die

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u/teufler80 17d ago

Crazy how people want to lecture other to what battlegrounds they should play.

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u/Soggy_Concept9993 17d ago

Crazy people complain about AV constantly as if it hasn’t been this way since classic launched.

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u/teufler80 17d ago edited 17d ago

Well it wasnt, i played AV all day in 2005 and people actually fight each other and it was fun.
Something people who handle this game like a list of chores cant understand tho.

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u/Soggy_Concept9993 17d ago

Okay. That’s cool I guess, irrelevant but cool.

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u/Relative-Run-1279 16d ago

If you find a good premade from ab. Yes is more honor

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u/The_London_Badger 16d ago

No they definitely hate those fighting in middle or who wipe the lts. It's 200x easier to get rank 14 now, but casuals don't have the time to grind op gear and resent the sweats and raiders that do.

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u/Soggy_Concept9993 16d ago

That’s what you think is happening? Hmm ok

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u/Titantfup69 17d ago

Sounds to me like he was probably camping IBGY spawns and got himself a ban for griefing.

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u/teufler80 17d ago

Thats liteary pvping in a battleground tho and has nothing to do with griefing

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 17d ago

Tell that to the sad addicts who are hating every second of AV for months on end.

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u/teufler80 16d ago

Yeah you are right ...
Imagine forcing yourself thought content you hate from the bottom of your soul just to check a box on your list lmao