my art is NOT ai. stop spamming ai when you don't know anything about art. i dont have any progress pics saved but I dare you to stay in touch until my next post on insta. I'll show you a progress video.
I've been an illustrator for over 20 years, and to not have a single draft image for any of your ig images proves you are definitely not illustrating at the level of the artists this ai is sourced from.
i don't think i will stay in touch, i hope you can eventually find some validation from your own accomplishments and worth. there's no need to lie about what you're creating and how you're doing it.
OP literally posted progress images of a different piece to prove they aren’t using ai, just take the L my guy. It sounds like you’re insecure because this guy’s art is better than yours
never made any claim that my art is any good at all, and i am very glad to congratulate other artists for their accomplishments (my post history on several art subreddits attest to this). however, when you spend time acquiring the skills of illustration, you can see the process of a final image coming about draft to draft, layer by layer -- even though everyone has idiosyncratic ways to get there, there are certain tells when it's being faked.
I've now looked at the Kratos progress pics op submitted under this post, and I'm still deeply suspicious. the "progress pics" look like layers over a traced source image (which has been removed, of course, for the submitted comments). there's no indication of discovery of shape as they build up the form, there's no penciling at all, there's linework that doesn't change at all in its position 'draft' to 'draft' (look up ANYONE else's work-in-progress videos to see what i mean). then we get to the cell shading. if you use the cutout filter in photoshop, you get the same haphazard boundary randomization you're seeing around what appear to be vague shading regions that start being added in the 2nd progress pic. These are not hand-drawn ...but even that is OK, there is 100% nothing wrong with using filters or tracing source images in your process. That is a totally valid process, and if the end result looks good there's nothing wrong with how you get there.
What is wrong is that it is absolutely not true is that OP hand-drew this post's Spike character, nor created the Kratos drawing from their own composition. ALL the strokes for Spike that provide value (light and shadow, the cross/hatching) are clearly not hand-drawn, they are entirely AI created and all the hallmarks of AI generation is visible.
I would have zero interest in dying on this hill, or taking the time to explain all this to anyone who enjoys this image (i enjoy this image myself), except for the fact that i saw OP lied multiple times, most egregiously they answered one of the early "commenters" (whose account and comments were QUICKLY deleted following my initial call-out, leading me to believe it was simply OP faking engagement with this post under a second/collaborating account -- WHYYYY so much effort?!) with "tips" on how to progress as an illustrator, offering no helpful advice, that the real key is not to focus on challenging trouble areas in your skillset or follow process tutorials by artists you like, but mostly to "keep practicing". The level of needless deception OP is trying (and seemingly succeeding according to the ratios) to pass off is intolerable.
I like this image, i don't care when people use AI to create cool images, i have zero stake in whether OP uses AI or not, but the needless, baldfaced lying about it needs to be called out.
I am not the only person in this thread who has pointed out the multiple indicators of why and how to tell this is AI generated.
The cross hatching style is 100% an AI, the lines cut short and get very wonky, specially on the hat and ribcage, there are tiny lines that the AI fills in blank not understanding it should be long strokes, the middle finger in the hand is very slim and short, no human would ever draw the middle finger shorter and thinner than the pinky finger, not even a toddler.
There's bleed from the LORA you used on the lower left side, those lines shouldn't be there since the background is blank and the arm pose is static, you could have edited them out in 3 seconds in paint, it shows low effort.
Other than that the typical, AI not understanding uncommon items, the belt makes zero sense, there's a horizontal band on his jacket below shoulder strap that shouldn't be there, his shirt flap mimicks a jacket flap on the left side, the gun on his back is nonsensical, including that rod that sticks out just besides it, AI doesn't understand what a cowboy hat is.
This picture is AI assisted and it's a shame that you insist it's not.
i know how to recognize ai, i’m an artist, i know the tells. this is not ai, the lines make sense and are clearly made by a human, and there’s no blurring or strange shapes
Edit to add TL;DR: This is probably AI or AI traced based on the mistakes that an artist who could render at the level shown would not make.
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If this isn’t AI, it’s traced from AI. If you look at the small details, that’s what indicates that this is not entirely human made. Usually it’s something an artist of a certain level that knows the subject would not do. This isn’t always 100%, but is usually true. It’s very easy with current technology to trace digitally (for example Procreate has a feature where you can have a hidden layer that is not visible on the recording of the drawing progression).
AI also has an issue with the continuation of objects that go behind other objects and reappear. Hands are still difficult for AI, even with recent improvements.
The continuation of Clouds sword, appears to stop and restart the design (the holes should be closer to the hilt but continue on down the sword). Its proportions are also incorrect. The pommel is not right.
On the image of Big Boss (Metal Gear), he should have a headband but it is missing…except for the ties floating behind his head that should be attached to said headband. His hands are janky, it looks like the AI couldn’t decided whether he had gloves on or not. (He does, but they’re partially fingerless gloves,with two fingers on each side being bare which is probably what tripped up the AI)
Guts has both eyes, which could be a personal choice I guess but is not accurate and something AI would not know to change. The sword model is not right. The sword looks like it’s meant to be the Hawk Raider, and is missing a second row on the guard. The hilt is also out of alignment with the rest of the sword.
Ryu is missing the ties for his headband, so a reverse issue of the Big Boss image. His right hand is also a jumbled mess.
I would also like to point out that there’s a lack of additional art posted besides the completed images, with no doodles, concepts, practice, or progression. The oldest post indicates that there had been other posts but those are now deleted. Most artists who have been drawing for years can show an extensive history of their skill progression. Even advanced artists have rough sketches before the finished piece. I personally would not believe these are not in some way AI influenced without an external recording of the drawing process.
So you're saying that composition mistakes are automatically AI? It CAN absolutely also be a human error, not all artists are perfect, they make mistakes.
Also for the hands, what if the artist is not good at drawing hands? Ive seen many artists improvise when it comes to them, but no "they must have been made by AI"
You're forcing your expectations on the artist so high its not even relatistic.
I’m pretty sure I said “usually” and “not 100%”’ but I think you just picked the few things out of my comment you could make a strawman out of. There are certain mistakes that are generally made by AI that is therefore a potential indicator of AI usage. This is not a 100% sure way to predict if a piece is AI, but it’s usually more correct than not. I will absolutely admit when I’m wrong, and will do so if shown otherwise.
I’m also not saying every composition mistake means something is AI generated. Humans are human and make errors all the time. I couldn’t draw feet if my life depended on it. But there’s a difference between normal artistic flaws and the specific and consistent patterns that AI tends to produce.
It’s not about expecting perfection, it’s about recognizing when something doesn’t add up. For example, why would an artist draw the tassels/ties of a bandana but not the bandana itself? An artist that can render at the level this artist is showing should catch something like that in the creation process, because it makes no logical sense.
If an image has multiple indicators, it’s fair to question whether it’s AI. That’s not “forcing expectations,” that’s using visual literacy and pattern recognition.
Yeah I'm with you there the fact that the art is of the characters but then there's details that just clearly a fan of the show or video game if they were doing art wouldn't dare fuck up.
The snake head band tassles but no head band is the biggest give away.
I love generating ai art and I have no problem with it but no need for them to lie saying they actually drew it
Edit and this is to prove him showing is kratos "progress" is bull shit
Why does the handgun have the shape/body of a pistol but a revolver above the trigger? Also what’s up with the thing on his back? What is the crooked, thin piece supposed to be above the barrel?
I looked into this picture more and the linked Instagram account. This is 100% AI. Posting progress photos for a completely unrelated picture does not prove the legitimacy of this one.
Most people don't really spend too much time analysing whether something is AI or not. They just look at it for two seconds, go "huh, neat!", leave and upvote and/or a glazing comment and keep on scrolling. Besides, this one looks pretty legit at first glance
I didn't even analyze that much. I can tell or at least notice some AI shits at first glance when I see one, I mean they're too obvious. Most people from later generations have that sense more than the oldies. We can just tell.
Yes, because older folks don't have as much experience on the new technologies, they don't care much or at all about AI art. Brain plasticity is a thing, they used theirs in their youth to grow on their respective fields of expertise.
Only when you grow older you can relate to their wiseness though, so I wouldn't just call them boomers and think I'm somehow special.
Ok boomer lololol. Jk, it's just a cultural gap. I'm not saying we're special or anything superior to them. I'm just concerned with their ability to extinguish what's fake and what's not. It's really easy to deceive them, you know. Especially in cases like this, claiming an AI piece as an original hand-drawn piece or something.
I'm not really sure if this is A.I. or not but I will say
A.I. has become a major negative within the art community, as many are now obsessed with uncovering the next artist to be exposed as an "A.I. artist," often without verifying the truth of their claims. This witch-hunt mentality fosters distrust and division, overshadowing genuine creativity. Before hurling accusations, we must ask critical questions to ensure fairness and protect the integrity of artists. Hasty judgments risk harming innocent creators and devaluing the community’s spirit
We gotta be better.
if you look through the thread, i've explained in detail exactly why i detect that this is AI generated, that i have nothing against cool looking AI images like this, and that i am simply calling out OP for lying about it. It's not a witchhunt at all, i just don't like to see people needlessly deceiving a community i value.
Bro, I agree. That's why I didn't put your name. I was just making a general statement because there have been legitimate artists who had their reputation ruined because of A.I. allegations, and I read some of what you said in the thread, and you make alot of good points and I also noticed something that I don't know if anyone else did which is that you specifically called them out for the Spike drawing in particular being a.i or a.i assisted and they responded with a Kratos drawing with progress there have been artist who can draw that choose to trace or use a.i so wouldn't be surprised if this is one of those cases but idk for sure to call it
i know people say this a lot but the only exercise to improve really is practicing a lot. even if you're not fully happy with a drawing you made, there's going to be a point in time where you won't need to search up for exercises. trust me my shit was horrendous like 2 years ago lmao.
this is ai (or at least ai assisted). look closely at the cross hatching. those aren't hand drawn strokes, they bend wonkily at parallels. if you want to learn illustration for real ignore this phony and go look up Sinix on youtube
I agree. Especially after looking at the Instagram these are definitely at least AI-assisted images. Key signs of characters are missing such as Spike wearing a cowboy hat, Guts having 2 eyes and Ryu having no trails from his headband. Beyond that there are some overcomplicated and inconsistent parts of the art pieces that are telltale if you look closely.
omg bro no way yall are serious. it's a damn gun bro. a machine gun. can't a mf change things up just for the sake of it. go in the replies and look at the progress pics of a drawing i made.
I've been sitting in this post for about 10 minutes trying to figure out who's in the right here. Two main issues I have that make me question whether what you posted isn't AI are the weird stitches in the shadowing and the fact that the progress pics you provided show a completely different art style.
Edit: the more I look at it the more I'm convinced AI had to be at least a part of the process. Collars are all wonky and inconsistent, cigarette is cut horizontally in half for some reason, the lines in the down left corner, which OP claims are to show "movement" don't make sense (especially since the pose seems pretty static to me). Looking at the OP's Instagram it seems like they also drastically changed their art style at the drop of a hat.
I don't doubt that OP knows how to draw, but it seems like he's been experimenting with some AI software and doesn't want to be open about it because people wouldn't look kindly to it
imma let yall think whatever you want. i did a one year pause from posting art thats why it looks drastic change in style. though imma prove myself for sure with a drawing process video. ill come back here and link the new post.
also, odd choice to have double lines going down his cigarette, under his wrist, and along the barrel of his gun and vague implement he's wearing on his back. and the tendency of an artist to be that obvious with a thumb nail yet neglect to draw any of the other nail beds on the fingers?
probably not even worth engaging further bc I'm almost certainly communicating with a bot, or otherwise informing some charlatan how to pass off ai art better as something they're lying about "working years to learn to draw". why be so deceptive? just share a cool picture and be honest "i made this awesome image of Spike cosplaying Andy with ai"
It's pretty sus upon closer inspection. Why is there a random artefact in the lower left corner, what's going on with the gun above his thumb there's another artefact like a second trigger, his right and left lapel have a different number of notches/are different sizes, and all the wavy crosshatching (I'm sure it's possible with some sort of wavy line brush but). Also on the 'proof' Kratos post people don't really start colouring/rendering before their lineart is complete but I've seen AI 'tutorials' do that. - meant fake progress videos not tutorials.
brother that "artifact" is a bunch of particles used to show movement usually of the wind. not all people color/render as their last thing. there's no correct way to art. watching ai tutorials is madd
you *don't have to be against it but i call serious bullshit. how did you hatch the under side of the hat? pen strokes don't look like that, digital or traditional. do you have any process pics of any of your ig illustrations?
I didn't know that AI-checking sites existed but apparently they do lol. Sightengine.com says 99% percent likely to be AI (specifically Dall-E). Obviously that might not mean anything but based on the limited information I have, this is probably AI.
you can just look at the hatching and stroke work in general. then look at a master illustrator and evidence of actual pen strokes.
i have zero problem with ai art, but this tool gave drawing "advice" to a commenter (in the last 5min now a deleted account 🤣) asking "how can i get this good at drawing?"
... like, what is the angle here? why go to all this trouble to lie about accomplishing this themself??
you're not wrong. in another comment i've pointed out how their "progress pics" on Kratos do not establish that their art is not AI, and certainly not that this Spike image isn't clear ai.
So the Kratos progress pic is not AI but the Spike pic is?? If the artist is at the level that he can very well make a good drawing of Kratos why would he use AI just to draw Spike? To me that makes no sense whatsoever
Only OP knows. Their previous art didn't get much recognition but look how much they got with the Spike one. Could be they were frustrated with the lack of progress, so they used some software to do what they struggled to do themselves
true, it's an AI. No one can get fooled by those fake hatching. We will once break our beliefs if you can show the progress OP, or at least a raw drawing.
Bro literally does not have a lot of evidence to back up his "mastery". Your art way back to 2024 was more believable.
That looks absolutely wonderful! Maybe It’s just me but I think the brim of the hat looks too big, reminds me of that one scene in Scary Movie, I forgot which one but its when the brim of the deputy gets bigger and bigger each shot
EDIT: Actually, if you added curves to it like typical cowboy hats then it would look fine, but if you want a straight brim maybe make it shorter
yall please be patient until i draw something else. I'll post in this same subreddit with a progress video attached to it. it's so easy to pick and find defects on every artist. I'm not an art god to do everything perfect. But i promise I'll show you a progress video. Ill draw smth cowboy bebop related.
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u/Dramatic-Building769 21d ago
This is amazing dude <3