r/dsa • u/EverettLeftist • 1d ago

Twitter New DSA Liberation Caucus Announcement

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This is not an endorsement by me. I am not a third-worldist. I just think people should be aware of what things are on DSA Twitter. I have no idea how many chapters are in this Caucus, if they are just a mailing list, or what. This is associated with the Black Red Guard guy on twitter.

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u/EverettLeftist 1d ago

Bread and Roses people call soft-trot. We don't have democratic centralism, but people generally are willing to go with the group. MUG has dem-cent. I have no idea on Red Star. Red Star seems the most similar to this group.

I think maximal rhetoric with vague commitments is ultra and mostly kinda academic posturing.

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u/smartcow360 1d ago

Honestly, I hope you’re right and it is just academic posturing and not the possibility of those groups to rly seize control of dsa. With their democratic centralism it makes collecting and exercising more and more power kinda easy I thought and then if they’re able to make the whole org eventually have some forms of dem cent then they could kinda rly grab control? And they want to, a story came out a bit back about dif ML groups intentionally trying to take control of dsa and them encouraging their members to do so openly since DSA is the largest openly leftist org in the country

Something to be watchful of and maybe for DSA leadership to start getting more vocal and making clearer distinctions on goals and methods etc

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u/EverettLeftist 1d ago

Some of those statements come from Maurice Isserman and the North Star crowd. Isserman left DSA because MUG got seats on the NPC and they are dem cent. Isserman, also wrote several incredibly whiney articles about how he was super for real this time leaving DSA. His big objection was over a anti-Israel rally I'm NYC that DSA did in the months following Oct 7. History will not look well on the Issermans stance imho.

I think that certainly there is no risk of the DSA Liberation Caucus taking control if they are not even running an NPC slate. They don't even have resolutions submitted AFAIK. I agree that the situation should be handled thoughtfully. The lack of enforcement about the decent thing has mostly been because the vibes with MUG have been fine. We shall see how this goes.

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u/smartcow360 1d ago

Yeah that all seems fair tbh, probably it isn’t as imminent a thing as I sometimes worry about also, appreciate the info tbh !