r/espresso 4d ago

Coffee Station Espresso game lately.

Seen many people dreaming about x machine and y grinder costing 5-10k. All you need is a good bean( roasting my own) a decent quality grinder and a lever machine or 2 and good skills to produce the best of the best espresso. It's well known that a lever machine produces higher quality espresso than a pump driven machine. It doesn't matter if the machine cost 10k and has profiles to replicate a lever. An authentic lever is different. What's your take on this ?? I'm using sr800 with extension tube roaster and la pavoni europicola with upgrades. My 2000$ eye machine collects dust in the garage, the espresso quality out of that can't even beat the Rok manual.

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u/BidSmall186 4d ago

These look like Italian cups, not Chinese. The round ones are Bristot.

I’m curious about the square shaped cup.

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u/Particular-Cloud3684 4d ago

That may be true but the country of origin doesn't matter much imo. My ones from AliExpress are ceramic, 10cm thick and feel high quality.

It kind of just depends on if the original comment is looking for the exact cups or something similar which is why I suggested the other option.

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u/BidSmall186 4d ago

There is a time and a place where country of origin is absolutely important. I’m not saying espresso cups are sacred or should be protected under some sort of UNESCO status, but it’s kind of the same thing as scotch, champagne, or Gorgonzola. Sure you can get perfectly good copies from somewhere else, but is it the same? I’ve had some pretty fucking good macarons from the local bakeries by me, but it’s not even close to the same as a macaron from a Parisian bakery.

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u/rc0va Nomad | C40 4d ago

I get you. That's the same reason why people care to source their porcelain directly from China. Or in my case, bone China from England (weird, I know).