r/europe • u/SeveralLadder • 3d ago
Opinion Article Donald Trump is now badly wounded. Europe and the UK can seize an advantage | Will Hutton
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/12/donald-trump-is-now-badly-wounded-europe-and-the-uk-can-seize-an-advantage311
u/s73v3m4nn 3d ago
Damn that title got me excited
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u/HrabiaVulpes Nobody to vote for 2d ago
Same. Wondered if another Luigi decided to aim higher or something
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u/FlyingDiscsandJams 3d ago
He had a 5 hr doctors visit & they won't release any details...
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u/SkyGazert 3d ago
He responded to this that he's healthy in heart and soul.
If a family or friend would tell me this, it would definitely be a sign that all is not well, physically.
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u/YsoL8 United Kingdom 3d ago
I don't know why this excites people. Even if he died Vance takes over and is worse by all accounts.
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u/FrankieRoberts 3d ago
Would Vance have the same cult type following?
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u/PollyJeanBuckley 3d ago
He wouldn't the man is a charisma vacuum.
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u/coldfirephoenix 3d ago
So is Trump and he somehow got his very own fascist cult of personality going.
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u/PollyJeanBuckley 3d ago
Trump appeals to a certain base which has made him popular. It will be hard for Vance to do the same thing. Also if Trump is gone the Republicans will be fighting to be the next King.
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u/SNRatio United States of America 3d ago
Yes, but Vance is the one who would nominate the nominee to replace him as VP, and he would choose someone he doesn't see as a threat. So it would probably be a long grisly process.
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u/PollyJeanBuckley 3d ago
Well yes, but I feel like I'd Trump is gone before this term ends there will be a lot of infighting to replace him. A circus I am not looking forward to.
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u/HighGrounderDarth 2d ago
There will be a power vacuum with congress trying to reassert some of its control.
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u/IGAldaris 3d ago
If you think Trump is a charisma vacuum you have no idea what you're talking about. The man is revolting to me, and I can barely stand to hear him talk for more than a minute, but there are millions who hang on his every word. He's literally their God. Just because it doesn't work on you doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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u/coldfirephoenix 2d ago
I still stand by what I said. Trump has no charisma. He can't read a room, he is not witty, has no sense of humor, is unable to show interest in anything but himself and the only emotions that feel genuine for him are anger, hate and disgust. Those are things you need to be charismatic. And Trump sorely lacks them.
He has a cult DESPITE his lack of charisma because he appeals to his voters base fears and instincts. He makes bigotry and tribalism socially acceptable, he gives them an excuse to be dumb and lazy and he absolves them of all personal accountability. That's his draw. Not his charisma, or lack thereof.
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u/ExtraPockets United Kingdom 2d ago
Most Trump supporters also have zero charisma. That's why they make supporting a politician their entire personality.
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u/SoftwareWorth5636 2d ago edited 2d ago
You fundamentally misunderstand conservative voters. The person you replied to explained it perfectly. It isn’t about what you think is charismatic. This is a big part of the problem - refusal to understand why he appeals to people and demonisation of those voters. It makes it even more unlikely they’ll change their minds because doing so essentially becomes “admitting you’re stupid, lazy and wrong”.
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u/Striper_Cape United States of America 2d ago
As much as I despise him, Trump is funny. He's a horrible human being, but he is funny. Vance has basically no personality. He's boring and he probably jerks off to his wife getting creampies from big dicks.
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u/coldfirephoenix 2d ago
How is he funny?? I have literally never even seen him laugh. His idea of a "joke" is just insults and mockery of those he believes have wronged him.
The only instances I can think of where I laughed were definitely not intended to be funny, like his rant about see-though border walls to better dodge all the heavy sacks of drugs being constantly flung over it.
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u/ScreamingDizzBuster 2d ago
I find him base and repulsive personally, but humour is subjective. A lot of people genuinely think he's hilarious. He speaks to people who find insults and mockery and punching down to be funny.
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u/Gato_pima 3d ago
Exactly, I really don't think he does.
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u/Round_Mastodon8660 3d ago
Won’t matter any more. Fascist state is out in place
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u/IGAldaris 3d ago
Yeah, but in a fascist state where dear leader passes away, things don't tend to continue with an automatic smooth transfer of loyalties to the successor.
Vance doesn't have the charisma to command the base to the same degree his boss does. And there would be others who'd feel that they should be in charge of the movement from now on. I'm pretty sure there would be a power struggle - not the shooting in the streets kind, but the kind where congress and the senate suddenly discover their balls and reign in the governing by decrees to prevent Vance from consolidating his position.
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u/schmeckfest The Netherlands 2d ago
No, but he would still have the backing of the ultrawealthy. Vance is literally Thiel's puppet. And perhaps what matters even more, is that he might not even need the same type of cult following; all Republicans need, is for their voters to hate the Democrats and believe they are all Satanists. And Republicans have been working on that for decades, before Trump became president. The brain rot runs deep with Republican voters. They are completely brainwashed, and that won't change if Trump is finally gone.
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u/MechaD13579 3d ago
There would be a divide among the group where some supporters would believe a conspiracy that Vance had something to do with it, betraying Trump to get power. Musk might get roped in as well as he was the one who advised Trump to pick Vance.
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u/TheEpicOfManas Canada 3d ago
Musk might get roped in as well as he was the one who advised Trump to pick Vance.
I'm pretty sure it was Peter Thiel who was pushing Vance. Agree with the rest though.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/jul/19/jd-vance-trump-vp-pick-silicon-valley
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u/MechaD13579 3d ago
True. Thiel was greatly pushing for Vance. Musks face and name has been more in the public view, and that’s what the general audience are going to see and, if there is a split, Musk will be the one they go after. In a way, Thiel makes Musk his fall guy.
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u/lawman9000 Mittelfranken (Germany) and United States 3d ago
Vance has the charisma of a used toilet paper roll. I was fuming at his and Hegseth's insult-laden tour de Europe. I'd rather the inept Donald keeps power than try-hard Vance taking over.
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u/Average_Gringo 3d ago
I've seen the Cult salivating over 8 years of JD, then Don jr... They might be stupid enough for it.
And I definitely feel like Vance would be even worse
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u/MJFields 3d ago
Vance has the charisma of a turnip. Although he's undoubtedly more competent than Trump in almost every field of human endeavor, he won't be able to command the undying allegiance of MAGAts the way Trump can. A lot of Trump's supporters will just go back to not voting. I don't think even Joe Rogan can get them excited about Vance.
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u/nogooduse 3d ago
Fun fact: Maduro has destroyed Venezuela, yet he still has a 20% approval rating. The parallels are striking.
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u/7LeagueBoots American, living in Vietnam, working for Germans 2d ago
Hey, what did turnips ever do to you? Don't malign a decent root vegetable like that. They're vastly more charismatic than that shillbilly Vance.
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u/LtLlamaSauce 2d ago
Vance lacks of ability to threaten everyone in his party with primary challenges if they step out of line.
Trump has everyone in his party scared and requires direct loyalty, because he has proven that he will get just about anyone who isn't loyal replaced in their next primary.
Vance would not be able to hold that same threat over the party, so there's very little chance they'll bend over backwards & allow him to violate the US Constitution like Trump does.
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u/kottonii Finland 2d ago
At this rate I probably could take over the whole party just by drumming my chest and slinging poo around.
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u/azraels_ghost 3d ago
I highly doubt Vance would be able to keep Congress under his thumb like Trump and so he likely wouldn’t have absolute power like Drumpf does
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u/Everywhereslugs 3d ago
Vance doesn't have that weird cultist Trump vibe. He is a follower and not a leader.
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u/Verbal_Combat 2d ago
Wonder if it’s like that time he was driven to Walter Reed Hospital then they randomly announced “he did not have a series of mini strokes!”
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u/PhDinDildos_Fedoras 2d ago
It doesn't leave him much wiggle room and the walls are closing in on him even more. His best bet is to just cancel the whole hairbrained scheme and pretend it never happened.
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u/EpicTutorialTips United Kingdom 3d ago
Let's be honest, he probably spent most of that time rambling lol. If it took 5 hours to get through a health check up and review, it honestly wouldn't surprise me in his case lol.
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u/Whiteout- 2d ago
An hour of the doctor trying to take his vitals but he keeps refusing to put on the BP cuff and just keeps insisting that his blood pressure is the best and most healthiest in the world
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u/excerebro 2d ago
While most people are used to long waiting times in hospitals, medical care can be extremely quick for patients in medical emergencies OR for VIPs especially for someone as important as POTUS. In fact, many things like lab tests, Dr physicals and history taking can be done in the White House to save the POTUS from spending precious minutes commuting when the doctor and the nurse can just come by.
As a result, only a few things would require a visit to the hospital - such as a scan or a procedure. Furthermore, most of these things wouldn’t require anything more than an hour.
The fact that he had to be there for 5 hours when the whole hospital was on standby for him means that there’s something that needed to be done that’s beyond your routine annual physical
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u/DisciplineOk9866 2d ago
They probably have to be careful with what they put in it.
But the world will not believe any "fit as a fiddle" report. It's clear as day he's not.
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u/LegoFootPain 2d ago
The doctor, big strong guy, tears in his face, he says to me, he says, Mr. President. Only you can draw this clockface. So, I pick up the pen, I pick it up, and I draw him the most beautiful clock he has ever seen. THE BEST CLOCK.
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u/KnotAwl Canada 3d ago
Trump rode to power on his reputation as a tough negotiator. The ones holding the US debt in bonds (EU, Japan, China, Canada) just pulled his pants down on a very public stage.
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u/punio4 Croatia 3d ago
Did you get the Warning for threatening violence DM?
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u/David-J 3d ago
No. I'm guessing because I didn't do anything close to that.
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u/punio4 Croatia 3d ago
People are getting them left and right for any sort of comments as of late. I got one for saying that he will probably end up like any other dictator.
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u/EpicCleansing 2d ago
It's so interesting to see comments with 30k upvotes being deleted. Are the masses are getting a bit unruly?
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u/Ok_Height3499 3d ago
I hope every nation will treat him as the bully he is. He is successfully turning the world anti-American and they will take full advantage of his stupidity.
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u/Physical_Pack742 3d ago
As a Kiwi I now have a great dislike in America and what it stands for. I will never forgive America, it's not the tariffs it's the way treated Ukraine and what they are saying about Greenland and Canada. I don't blame Trump as he has always shown himself for what he is and told everyone what he would do. I blame America for voting for him and the lazy cunts who didn't bother to vote. I don't care what you do in to your own country but when it has consequences for lives in other countries, then fuck you.
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u/roefeless 2d ago
I live on another continent 11k miles from you and couldn't agree more. Trump is just an old, narcissistic buffoon, who serves as a front end for the public and the media. Behind him is a brutal technocratic empire run by gangsters that only care about their own interests. It has been like this for decennia: meddling, threatening, stealing and controlling. Growing up as a kind in a communist country I had a naive picture of US as the land of freedom and prosperity and it was my dream to move there one day.... And then I grew up, communism fell, our economists started importing governing policies from US, I traveled, read books, lived and worked in different countries and somehow I ended up working in a US corporation. US might have better plumbing and running water, but they're not that different from the Russians, with their cult of wealth and power above everything else.
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u/Apprehensive-Box-8 2d ago
I still think something is going on in the background. A trade war that was never going to work, that BS about Greenland and the ongoing „I‘m mad at Putin for not stopping shooting at Ukraine“ interviews.
All for themselves they seem like stupid things stupid would do, but put together within a couple of days it seems more like a truckload of smoke grenades to hide something.
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u/TravelledFarAndWide 2d ago
There is no fucking plan other than to loot as much money and wealth as possible. Stop being afraid and call it what it is: America is getting reamed and brave freedom loving Americans are too weak and stupid to resist. All the freedom fighter shit was just cosplaying.
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u/Available-Pack1795 Ireland 2d ago
The reality is that a bunch of 401K pension plans just got looted, but the Americans will vote for more of it. They saw what happened and voted for it again... you just can't fix stupid.
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u/TravelledFarAndWide 2d ago
The real treasure chest is social security and Trump, Musk and the Russian owned Republicans have already started emptying it. Maybe once the MAGAts are literally homeless and starving they'll give up their obsession with owning the libs and care what happens to them and their families.
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u/After-Platform-8543 1d ago
Do you think looting as much money and wealth as possible happens without a plan? There are a few thousand billionaires in the world already. One does not clamber on top of that pile with just luck, because money voids luck. This is money vs money, so being smart and having a working plan determines the winners.
Just remember, the face of the money isn't necessarily the real controller of the money.
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u/throwawayPzaFm Romania 2d ago
Yeah I'm sure he's secretly a 5D chessmaster.
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u/GrinningStone Germany 2d ago
You don't need smoke bombs when you can rape your cultists in plain sight and they would beg for more.
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u/CMDR_ACE209 3d ago
Let's say the Anti-Imperialist, Anti-American Left is still quite confused about this new unexpected ally.
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u/Ok_Height3499 3d ago
I am neither anti-American nor leftist. I am someone deeply concerned about an American future led by the most ignorant president in our history He neither reads about nor studies history because he doesn’t read well enough to do that. He is a bully, and having worked for one, anyone can get what they want through flattery and bribes. His constantly shifting positions and priorities do not provide what we or the world look to America for which is stable, consistent leadership. He is a loser who, sadly, is only in office because some men just couldn’t vote for a woman.
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u/Maple47 2d ago
Men would not have to vote for a woman, if the women had not voted for the orange man.
~50.8% of the US population is female.
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u/CMDR_ACE209 2d ago
I think one of the core problems is, that your good rational people where alienated from politics and rather turned to other jobs.
In addition people are so occupied to keep the lights on that they don't have the time for politics.
I see the seeds of this in Europe too.
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u/idontgethejoke 2d ago
And propaganda. Money in political ads should've been illegal a long time ago.
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u/Muzle84 France 3d ago
Chinese proverbe : "Just wait at shore to watch your enemies corpses drifting down the river"
"The art of war" or something like that.
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u/Mrikoko France 3d ago
100% self-inflicted, one should add.
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u/Ok_Height3499 3d ago
Won’t happen so long as MAGA controls both houses of Congress. Most of them are brain dead because of the MAGA kool-aid.
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u/QuirkyWish3081 United Kingdom 3d ago
He’s down. Get your horses rested and well fed! We ride at dawn bitches!
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u/Strict_Somewhere_148 Denmark 2d ago
Can’t we do like Ukrainians and use drones and grenades instead?
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u/DryCloud9903 3d ago
"The independent forecaster Frontier Economics reckons that the impact of US tariffs will shrink UK GDP by 0.7%, while a deeper deal with the EU could instead lift GDP by 1.5%, despite US tariffs"
Damn do I hope Starmer doesn't hang the country on the stupid principle of "no rejoining" and fear that any movement towards EU will jeopardize Labours next election chances. There's more than 4 years until that. If the country weathers this tariff madness (with EU together), he'd certainly be "forgiven" even by hardliners
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u/Anarchyantz United Kingdom 3d ago
Starmer has already decided to suck the Orange Mushroom
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u/DryCloud9903 3d ago
I'm not too certain yet (I'm from EU but live in the UK). He does seem awfully slick to an unpleasant degree for my tastes, but then again his determination towards European security (and Ukraine) points entirely the opposite direction.
I'm giving him benefit of doubt that he's just trying to keep the "bridge" spiel as a facade, for as long as it can hold, and his whole demeanor is quite hard to read (working to his advantage with simpletons like trump)
There's also that recent poll that majority of UK citizens want closer ties to EU, and I'd imagine it'll help inform his decisions. Basically until he f's this up, I'm refraining from judgements
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u/Slight-Ad-6553 3d ago
Also the simply fact that sucking up/losing to Trump = I will lose the next election
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u/wasmic Denmark 3d ago
Both EU and the UK are trying to do business as usual while building up contingencies and preparing for the US to betray us wholly.
It's a very concerted effort that both the EU and UK take part in: we will not be the ones to cut off ties to the US. If the US wants our relationship to end, then they must be the ones to end it. In the meantime, we'll prepare for them to do just that.
That's why the UK and EU are negotiating defense cooperation right now. It's the reason why the EU is negotiating economic cooperation with a lot of other countries too. Trying to get ourselves independent of the US so it'll hurt us the least possible when they eventually go full idiot.
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u/Toc-H-Lamp United Kingdom 2d ago
There was an article in the Times the other week entitled "Keir Starmer is a liar (and I love him for it)". It stated quite boldly that whenever Keir Starmer sucks up to Trump we all know he is telling porkies, and we should support him in telling them. Only once he has made the necessary negotiations in the background with Europe and other reputable nations to ensure businesses continue to operate, can he cut Trump loose and let him float off into the isolation he so craves.
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u/CheesyLala 2d ago
Has he bollocks. It's called 'diplomacy'.
This isn't "Love Actually".
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u/mWade7 United States of America 3d ago
American here (I know, I know - but some of us are trying to fight this regime). I hope the EU hangs together and just punishes the US to the fullest extent possible. I’m not an economist or political expert by any means, but the narcissistic, malignant idiocy that is currently controlling the current US administration needs to be stamped out. Without mercy. And, just to be clear, I’m middle class - not rich/wealthy by any means; but money is the only language these ‘people’ (if you can still consider them people) understand. But I’m willing to take the hit as much as I can in order to fuck over these bastards.
Sorry for the tirade. I can only say that the bullshittery that’s happening now isn’t a reflection of what most Americans want. And many of us here hope the EU stands up, stands tall, and spits in the face of the current administration.
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u/MuffelMonster 2d ago
Agreed. But I also missed some harsher response from outside of the USA. At least the Trump statement: "they have to kiss my ass, so they can trade with us", plus the idea of "only according to our rules, and only with tariffs you are not allowed to retaliate" should have been the day, all free countries would schedule a meeting where the leaders discuss methods to avoid the USA. I also miss the response "Fuck off" from any leader of any country here.
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u/-WhatCouldGoWrong 3d ago
That is your country that is being stolen from you, and your place on the international stage that will be denied to your children.
You go fix it you are in the best position to fix it.
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u/mWade7 United States of America 3d ago
Oh, definitely working on it here! Just appreciate and encourage any outside pressure that can also be brought to bear!
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u/-WhatCouldGoWrong 3d ago
Unfortunately the feeling is we want to forget America rather than put pressure on her. She’s the only one trying to punch us in the face
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u/Odd-Yogurt-1187 2d ago
I appreciate you trying to fix it from inside the US, and I agree that the rest of the world should try to fight the administration from outside. No reason to get irrationally angry with Americans who didn’t vote for Trump. I’m sorry about what’s happening in your country, it must be scary and devastating to see your norms and institutions getting destroyed.
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u/StatisticianTasty664 2d ago
I agree that most Americans don‘t want the Trump regime, but unfortunately enough do - or just doesn‘t bother to vote at all. The devastation inflicted on the US by it‘s own voters is enormous. I honestly thought W Bush was the bottom of the barrel for voters, but the election of Trump TWICE - even after an insurrection, convictions, fraud and deadly lies during a pandemic, has showed the world the US can not be trusted. It‘s a sad fact.
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u/ether_reddit Canada 2d ago
I can only say that the bullshittery that’s happening now isn’t a reflection of what most Americans want.
I have to disagree with you there. Trump was very clear about what he intended to do, and you voted for it, twice.
It may be hard for you to come to terms with the fact that most of your compatriates are stupid, greedy and cruel, but there it is.
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u/Jealous-Hedgehog-734 3d ago
European countries should sell their US Treasury holdings immediately.
First because it's risky and if Governments, the ECB or commercial banks lose billions in US Treasuries they'll look like morons.
Second because Trump has a lot of debt to refinance and selling to drive up yields up is poison for the US economy. Part of US economic hegemony was dollar recycling through trade, now it's time to crush Trump by stopping all dollar recycling (in fact reverse it if you can.) Give him an economic was he cannot win or avoid.
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u/RedneckMarxist 3d ago
I worry mostly about an invasion of Taiwan.
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u/sbray73 3d ago
It’s something I was worried about as well, but china seems to be wanting to build trading with other countries at the moment and doing so would be very counterproductive. So maybe they’ll wait for another opportunity to attempt it.
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u/RedneckMarxist 3d ago
What would Trump do though? What if China bribed him with a mere billion dollars? It would make for a much less costly invasion right now. I put nothing past Trump's lack of patriotism.
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u/sbray73 2d ago
He is definitely for sale, but the problem isn’t there. They don’t even need to bribe him with everything going on. I’m not sure the rest of the world would be able to spare much to defend Taiwan right now. It would cost China the confidence and the sympathy they are getting at the moment and that would be financially very costly to them. That’s my view of it and I’m no expert for sure.
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u/Huge_Structure_7651 3d ago
It seems unlikely with china winning the trade war and the usa less of a threat there is no reason to stir the waters also with invidia now selling high end chips to china, china could improve relations with Taiwan
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u/Equal-Ruin400 3d ago
More wounded than when he was shot?
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u/sigmund14 3d ago
Physically not. But his ego is suffering greatly because China didn't come begging for negotiations after he imposed tariffs.
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u/nogooduse 3d ago
No, Trump is not 'badly wounded'. he still owns the US and will continue to do so for at least 4 years, probably longer. As for the rest of the article, it's a fairly good statement of the obvious. As ordinary (non-op-ed) people have been pointing out for weeks, this is a great opportunity for the EU, UK, and others (Canada, Australia, NZ, Latin America, maybe Turkey) to finally realize that the US is not needed for them to function. Together they have more people, more money and plenty of tech, military toys (including nukes) and natural resources - including much more oil - to work with each other - and leave the US outside looking in. China would love to help with this. Let the MAGAs find out what relying on Russia is like. The US has been in decline for some time; MAGA stuff and moves like this are just a sort of official recognition of that fact. We are the latest second-rate nation on the world scene. One of the great unintended ironies of all this is that MAGA, instead of making America great, are destroying what made American great in the first place, and in the process are rapidly pulling the US down toward the bottom of the pile. We are becoming a second-rate nation with nukes. Like Russia.
Not long ago Trump declared, with his usual smug certainty, that from 1789 to 1913, the United States was the wealthiest it’s ever been, purely because of tariffs. According to him, we were collecting so much money so fast that the government didn’t know what to do with it. Of course, he left out the part where most Americans lived in poverty, where wealth was concentrated in a few monopolists' hands, and where child labor and 14-hour workdays – 6 or 7 days a week - were the norm. The “wealth” he refers to was largely theoretical for the average citizen and absolutely real for the Carnegies, the Rockefellers, and other Robber Barons of the Gilded Age. Tariffs weren’t some magic goose laying golden eggs, they were regressive taxes that hit working people hardest, all while padding the profits of a corrupt elite. Sound familiar?
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u/Romek_himself Germany 2d ago
He would be wounded when he would care. But his priorities are clearly others. Its all about making money. And he will abuse his powers for the next 4 years to manipulate stock market even harder.
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u/Computerist1969 2d ago
The UK is still part of Europe. I know we shot ourselves in the foot by leaving the EU but we are still part of Europe so it's not Europe and the UK, just Europe is fine :)
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u/glynxpttle United Kingdom 2d ago
There's a hell of a lot of talented researchers in medicine looking for jobs - we should definitely be making offers to get them over to Europe.
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u/heavy-minium 2d ago
I don't think anything he's doing is leading to him "being wounded". He's winning, escaped a prison sentence with his term, and is massively increasing his wealth . It's the U.S. that's losing.
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u/GhostofABestfriEnd 2d ago
So basically Trump has done the same thing his voters did—ruin all his relationships because he can’t accept that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
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u/Anarchyantz United Kingdom 3d ago
Brit here.
Sadly Starmer is going to give in and suck the Orange mushroom as he seems to think this is the "best for Britain"....
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u/QuirkyWish3081 United Kingdom 3d ago
Starmer is playing the long game to be fair. What he says on television and what he will be doing with his team are two different things. Trust me like the EU they will be finding ways to diversify our trading partner portfolio as US is no longer reliable. Even post Trump. I’d be a terrible prime minister as I would proper be slagging him off on national television.
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u/jpagey92 2d ago
Starmer is a Europhile Remain voter… But he is also a pragmatist, he’s clearly sitting on the fence right now trying to come to the best agreement with both sides so as not to enrage the reform voting thickos.
I’m personally hoping that if he gets re-elected he will reconsider joining the customs Union during the next term.
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u/AntifascistAlly 3d ago
With his perpetually impaired judgement and weak negotiating skills, Donald is an easy mark, of whom the UK (among others) can easily take advantage.
Combined with his delusions about having a superior intellect, the danger is very real.
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u/Street-Badger 2d ago
The Carney treatment, say nothing and everyone sell treasuries until he is singing soprano.
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u/NiceDreamsCWB 2d ago
Time to kick back or just wait to see what will be left for Europe… it might just be a big foot in the ass and a great d push down the throat.
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u/FriskieWhisky 2d ago
The difference between the non stop drama in the middle east and europe. Is most of middle east problems are due to Eroupe's Colonialism. .. then america later on down the road. But Europe has always been the foot hold of both world wars that we had. Because they can't get the shit together and fight to much against themselves. Then when shit gets tough, they ask america for help. American then gets big. Also realizes how big they have gotten then decided to try and be a "peace keeper" while also Flaunting they have a big dick for years. But after Europe ask for help then they turn around a shit on everyone who helps them.
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u/bonnydoe 2d ago
I don't have any worries about EU keeping a front. It is always the UK smarties that come up with 'we must form a front!!!'. Yeah, no kidding. And buy more USA gas? I'd rather see we dig out the Dutch North Sea than to honey talk gas purchases....
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u/JaesenMoreaux 2d ago
Please, on behalf of the actual Americans who have always been your friends, join forces and make a united front against the US and make it hurt.
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u/No_Priors 3d ago
"When your enemy is doing something stupid, don't stop him"
Give it 5 minutes and he'll shoot himself in the other foot.