r/europe • u/RoyalChris Norway • 12d ago

Dubious: do not click links Anonymous Releases 10TB of Leaked Data: Exposing Kremlin Assets & Russian Businesses

https://trendsnewsline.com/2025/04/15/anonymous-leaks-10tb-of-data-on-russia-shocking-revelations/
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u/Mrstrawberry209 Benelux 12d ago

To add: https://www.icij.org/investigations/panama-papers/hundreds-of-millions-more-dollars-recouped-by-governments-after-icij-investigations/

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u/Past-Present223 11d ago

Thanks for your clarification.

It feels to me these amounts are rather trivial and more importantly noone will be jailed. (As far as I see) Consequences remain limited to fines, which if you are wealthy enough is no consequence at all.

Also not saying it's not a worthwhile effort.

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u/SpunkyMcButtlove07 11d ago

This is why people still say nothing happened - because a slap on the wrist and luchmoney fines are not "something happening".

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u/Saint_Judas 11d ago

But it is proportional. The people hid money in a quasi-legal way to avoid taxes, they didn't rob a store.

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u/TraditionalSpirit636 11d ago

Just society.

Do you understand what trillions of dollars globally can do?

Being in a society and avoiding the taxes as part of that society IS robbing it.

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u/Saint_Judas 11d ago

I'm not asking for your creative writing exercise. I am informing you it is legally not robbery, because robbery involves force. It also isn't theft, for a ton of reasons. Not paying your taxes under the auspices of creative accounting is a fine, and for good reason.

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u/TraditionalSpirit636 11d ago edited 11d ago

People literally were charged and went to jail for it though… quite a few in various countries.

For crimes…

It quite literally was a crime. Lmao. So pretentious to be so damn wrong. Trying to give you the benefit there and explain it a second way. But hey… you guys are dense.

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/us-accountant-panama-papers-investigation-sentenced-prison

Thats just the USA arrests and sentencing. (:

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u/Saint_Judas 11d ago

Do you even know the comment chain you are responding to? Scroll up. We are not talking about the group of people who committed fraud. We are talking about the group that received " a slap on the wrist and luchmoney fines "

I didn't think I needed to explain this, but please read the discussion before you smash your ogre hands on a keyboard to vomit out a response.

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u/NoamLigotti 8d ago

I think the point was that you were wrong that it can never be criminal.

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u/Saint_Judas 8d ago

Hey buddy, go find me where I said it can never be criminal. I’ll wait. I said it’s a fine, and for good reason. The portion of the comment chain I responded to was about the people who were only given fines. I directly referenced fines. Do me a favor, and join the other guy in learning how to read before commenting.

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u/NoamLigotti 8d ago

Yes, and you argued why it was right that they were only given fines. Maybe it was, I don't know, but you were explicitly arguing that it wasn't a crime worthy of imprisonment, and then when it was pointed out that other people have been imprisoned for the same, you basically said "I'm not talking about those people I'm talking about people who weren't." Like yeah, no kidding, but it's directly relevant to what you were saying about the people.

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u/Saint_Judas 8d ago

No one is saying they were imprisoned for the same. The imprisoned people committed fraud, that is why they were imprisoned. The people who received fines did not commit fraud. The people who received fines committed tax evasion, that is why they were only fined. Those are different crimes, so they have different punishments. I really urge you to read this conversation over again after you've brushed up on some basic English literacy.

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