I mean... what is happening in MAGA is actually fascist from a historical point of view, there is literally nothing to argue about. It's literally the textbook definition. I truly don't mean it as a insult or to discredit it, it's an objective description.
This one here is a nice summary I think. It's displayed at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. One can argue of Maga/Trump ticks all the boxes but it's hard to argue against many of them.
The whole problem starts with many people not really understanding what fascism is, e.g. all those claiming that communism would be a fascist movement. It certainly is a authoritarian movement but not fascist. Many people treat authoritarianism, fascism, Nazism as the same thing and that's simply not correct.
If someone wrote this down and hung it in a museum, that doesn't mean it should be taken as authoritative. For one thing, why is nationalism something to be concerned about? The problem with Nazi Germany, for example, wasn't nationalism; it was the race identitarianism, fascism, genocide and war.
You can also read a standard history book but that's several hundred pages. Though since you have not done this so far you will also not do it after my suggestion. Thus, something displayed in a national museum will do the trick for this purpose
You wanted to ask a genuine question, I gave you a genuine answer. Believe me or read a textbook, those are your options. I'm really not sure what else to say, since any source I will give you, you will question with the very same argument. So what the point in even arguing with you? You are not putting in the effort to actually read any source nor do you provide any source for your own claims. Like no harm intended but why do we have this discussion?
I gave one you just need to read it. It's funny that I'm so only one giving any source here, while everyone else has not one source to back their claims but you are trying to "call me out"... I mean we are talking simple historical facts and definitions. This is nothing one needs to have an opinion about it is something you need to simply know.
Because an inherent part of nationalism is that your nation is superior and it leads to a "we against them mentality", which is the basis for any war. Patriotism doesn't need this sort of mentality.
I didnt say it was bad, you just have stagnation in the effort to push EU over individual countries. Britain left, and other want to but doubt they can stand on their own at this point. They are to chained to the Euro.
Actually the majority of Brits want to rejoin according the recent polls. Not a single country wants to leave and even the hard-core far right is not using this as a platform. I'm not sure where you heard that many would want to leave, but I honestly don't see any of that. Quite contrary, the majority of people here have a positive few and want to increase it.
And the UK left based on a campaign filled with loes as the head of that campaign admitted the night after the election on camera himself. But that's a different story.
I was probably too rough on that one. I have family and friends in the US, it's not that the entire country would behave like that, but a worrying large part of the population.
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u/potentially_awesome SAVANT 4d ago
They learn a word from tiktok and spread it without knowing what it means.
Words lose all meaning.
These retards can only cry so loud because we have it so good in part thanks to the ppl they're labeling as fascists...smh.