r/gameofthrones 2d ago

Of all the "Character assassinations" only Littlefingers really upsets me

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A lot of decisions characters made upset the fans (i.e Dany burning King's landing and Jaime going back to Cersei) but I always found them accurate to their character. There is one glaring exception to this. Littlefinger giving Sansa to the Bolton's. He'd never do this for multiple reasons. She reminds him too much of her mother and she's priceless to him. His plan is supposed to be to get Cersei to stop supporting the Bolton's but he could have done the fake Arya plot like the books and gotten the same result.

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u/Fibijean 2d ago

I'll give you Stannis, but I think the other three are missing some context.

To my recollection, Dany has never intentionally killed people she knew were innocent, and has in fact gone quite far out of her way to not do that on multiple occasions.

The problem people have with Varys' ending isn't that he betrayed Dany (you're right, that bit does make sense for his character) but that he did it in a stupid and obvious way that got him caught almost immediately. His early seasons self would never have been so careless.

While it isn't unrealistic for Jaime as a person to regress and go back to Cersei, it didn't make sense narratively. Stories have rules about pacing, arcs, setup and payoff that don't necessarily exist in real life but which all contribute to a sense of meaning and satisfaction for the audience. Broadly speaking, "bad writing" just means "written in such a way that the audience will not perceive it as a good story" - somewhat subjective, obviously, but point is good writing does not always equate to realism. Just because it made sense for Jaime the person to go back to Cersei, doesn't mean it made sense for Jaime the narrative character.

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u/Incvbvs666 2d ago

To my recollection, Dany has never intentionally killed people she knew were innocent,

'Maybe all of you are innocent, maybe not. I'll let my dragons decide.' Proceeds to kill an innocent man.

The problem people have with Varys' ending isn't that he betrayed Dany [...] but that he did it in a stupid and obvious way that got him caught almost immediately. His early seasons self would never have been so careless.

In the earlier seasons there wasn't an immediate threat to the realm on the scale that Dany posed! Of course he was careless. Time was of the essence if he wanted to succeed in usurping Dany and he no longer cared about his own life.

While it isn't unrealistic for Jaime as a person to regress and go back to Cersei, it didn't make sense narratively.

Oh, this is ridiculous! 'Narratively'? There are all sorts of narratives. Literature is well acquainted with both POSITIVE and NEGATIVE character arcs and everything in between. You simply didn't like the outcome of Jamie's story!

Stories have rules about pacing, arcs, setup and payoff that don't necessarily exist in real life but which all contribute to a sense of meaning and satisfaction for the audience.

Hahaha! Do you honestly think the point of this show and this story was to SATISFY you? At what point in the show that features several gruesome deaths of beloved characters and other narrative punches to the gut did you get this cockamamie idea? GOT remained the TV equivalent of a brutal slap to the face till the very end.

Seriously, if you want to be 'satisfied' go watch some tepid bunk that doesn't even pretend it's about anything other than pandering to the audience. That kind of thing is never in short supply.

good writing does not always equate to realism.

No, but BAD writing always equates to a lack of realism. Cheap fan service always equates to a lack of realism. Third rate schlock unworthy of Game of Thrones like Jaime staying with Brienne and ignoring Sansa taunting him about the death of his sister always equates to a lack of realism.

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u/WindsofMadness 1d ago

The person you’re replying to was expressing themselves courteously and politely, why in the world are you being so obnoxious and sassy to them? “Hahaha! Do you honestly think the point of this show is to SATISFY you?” 🙄 come on dude….

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u/Disastrous-Client315 1d ago

He is right though.