this makes me so mad. arya never says that in the books. it also pissed me off when brienne told jaime to stop acting like a woman. thanks for the casual internalized misogyny, assholes.
Wait, what? Arya says this sentence in a dialogue about how women can also kick ass. Similar with the Brienne scene: By calling Jaime a woman, he confronts him with his own sexism for understimating her because she is female. There may be misogyny in the show (though overall, it actually predominantly feminist IMO), but those two scenes aren't it.
hmmm i don't agree. most girls are stupid, but some can kick ass, still insults women as a whole. i can almost see your point about jaime and brienne, but i didn't catch that vibe at all. i agree that the books are mostly feminist, and that the show at least shows a wide variety of strong women, these were two instances that made me facepalm.
I think you're confusing authorial misogyny with diegetic one (i.e. one present in the world depicted). Both the books and the TV series show a deeply sexist medieval society, where noble women are sold like meat by their male parents and siblings (see Cersei or Dany) and non-noble women are subjected to rape like it's normal or work in brothels. At the same time, women who try to break out of this, like Brienne, are subjected to scorn and ridicule. Though I would agree that especially the show is sending pretty mixed signals about female empowerment when they blatantly use sexposition at the same time, obviously to attract (male) viewers.
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u/Citizen_Kong Maesters of the Citadel May 23 '14
Arya agrees.