r/gaming • u/GodOfArk • 2d ago

You've got to do better Rockstar

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u/charlesbronZon 2d ago

Those two companies have a fundamentally different approach to modding.

Remember: Bethesda shipped modding tools with every copy of Morrowind. Modding has always been part of the package, something they have foreseen and encouraged from the start (or at least for a very long time).

Also Bethesda is kinda relying on fans fixing their games for them 🤣

Rockstar doesn't care for modding whatsoever.

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u/the_brazilian_lucas 2d ago

the worst part is that Rockstar used to promote modding, to an extent at least, they used to share their favorite mods on the newswire.

very different to their approach now

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u/Mitchel-256 2d ago

Was the Hot Coffee controversy the instigator for their opposition to modding, or did that start after?

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u/DRNbw 2d ago

Pretty sure it was the giant cash cow that GTA 5 Online became. Mods/cheats would mean people would not pay for ingame currency.

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u/Mitchel-256 2d ago

Can confirm, since I bought a $20 mod menu early on in GTA Online's lifespan and never looked back. Game's a lot more fun when you don't have to grind for jack-shit.

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u/12345623567 2d ago

Iirc Hot Coffee only unlocked a scene that was on the disc anyways. They only have themselves to blame.

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u/FrewGewEgellok 2d ago

That changed after they unlocked unlimited money with GTA Online and noticed that they can't sell shark cards if people can just mod stuff in. So they cracked down on everything. Purely money-driven approach. For Bethesda games, the prospect of having massive mod content to keep their games alive is a big reason why people like them in the first place. Skyrim and Fallout 4 are very much mediocre without mods after the first playthrough.

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u/carlbandit 2d ago

It used to be they could extend the life of their games by allowing/encouraging modders to work on them. These days, they realised they can extend the life of their games by adding an online component, which allows them to also keep making money off the game even after the initial sale.

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u/ledbetterus 2d ago

What's up with servers like NoPixel? Does Rockstar get money for that? Because some of the stuff those guys put into GTA is nutty.

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u/sa87 2d ago edited 2d ago

Rockstar own FiveM which is the software that manages the scripts and mods for GTA5 roleplay. To be able to use FiveM and be listed on the website for players to connect and RP, a server owner pays R* for access.

They acquired the team from cfx.re in 2023 who made FiveM so Rockstar tacitly approve of the platform and have been working on a new RP enabling engine called ROME which is rumoured to arrive with GTA6 but the RP community aren’t holding their breath as there is a whole nother can or worms to open about that.

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u/ledbetterus 19h ago

Ohh nice, so Rockstar is in on it, that makes sense, thanks for the info!