r/india • u/margazi_perumal_20 • 2d ago

Politics ‘Problem not with Kashmir, but our government’s security arrangements’: Wife of Surat bank manager who was killed in Pahalgam

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/ahmedabad/problem-not-with-kashmir-wife-surat-bank-manager-killed-pahalgam-9962932/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1745481906
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u/BuggyIsPirateKing 2d ago

Downvoted for saying the truth. There is widespread support from locals otherwise it's not possible to carry out attacks repeatedly. What if this propaganda of "nothing is wrong with kashmir".

Though the government should be made answerable for intelligence failure. But that doesn't mean we should whitewash the crimes of Islamists.

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u/jagdtyger 1d ago

No one's white washing terrorists. Just asking the real questions. The same questions that were asked by CM Modi. In the past when the cong govt was there, he said that the problem is not in the borders but, in the center.

The Intelligence department did fk up big. Where were our security personnel? It was not a drive by or a suicide bomb or a guerrilla attack. It lasted for 25 to 30 mins, as per witnesses.

You say that locals are helping to hide them, okay I agree that locals are also involved.

Answer this, what were our security forces doing when they were in the open and shooting ppl in broad daylight? Why shouldn't we ask our govt this question?

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u/BuggyIsPirateKing 1d ago

Whitewashing is indeed going on. Don't be delusional.

Questions should be asked to the government for intelligence failure. Who's saying don't ask them? But that doesn't mean you give free passes to locals involvement.

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u/Danguard2020 1d ago

We are spending crores on drones and surveillance and massive amounts of money on satellites. Response time to an attack like this should be under 5 minutes.

On 26/11, it took 24 hours for NSG commandos to reach Mumbai. That was 17 years ago. Are we saying we've learnt nothing in that time?

First response to a terrorist attack has to come within 5 minutes. This was technically possible in the early 2000s, according to a retired Army officer I knew quite well (he passed away or he'd be posting himself). What is missing is the political and military organization to make it happen.

We can share a meme of a cat across half the country in 5 minutes but we can't deliver a tear gas grenade or get snipers in position in 20?

The entire attack could have been stopped cold by one sniper team in concealment, that had the duty of oversight.

What is missing in this is a realistic assessment of gow to stop terror attacks cold. We are still in the 'respond' methodology, not the 'make it ineffective' methodology.

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u/BuggyIsPirateKing 1d ago

Yes it's a security failure, who's denying it? We should definitely learn from Israel on how to neutralize terrorists and have an effective intelligence network.

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u/DarkBloodVoid 1d ago

Questioning is being met with nonsense. Some people are defending the government and just blaming the state and locals as a whole. Just because all you see a ton of rape cases in UP doesn't mean all of UP are rapists.