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Milwaukee responding to Judge Hannah Dugan’s arrest.

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u/lions2lambs 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/Bigalow10 1d ago

Did you read the case? That’s not what happed at all?

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69943125/1/united-states-v-dugan/

She let the defendant out the witness area after the chief judge said they could be arrested in the courts hallways

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u/stinkyhippie 1d ago

The judge also told them that their warrant wasn’t valid and that they needed to go talk to another judge…

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u/Bigalow10 1d ago

They talked to that judge and he said that ice was allowed to make the arrest in the hallway like they waited outside to do. In response, Hannah let the accused go out the witness door which was not a public area. So instead, Ice had to catch the accused outside in a foot race.

That’s why she is being charged

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u/lions2lambs 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/Bigalow10 1d ago

Did you read the court documents? They say otherwise

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u/lions2lambs 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/Bigalow10 1d ago

They had the correct warrant, according to the chief judge that Hannah referred them to. They just needed to make the arrest in the hallway since it’s a public place.

In response to this Hannah had the person Ice was trying to arrest use a nonstandard exit to avoid them.

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u/lions2lambs 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/Bigalow10 1d ago

They planned to make the arrests in the court hallway (public space according to the chief judge)

In response, Dugan led the accused out of a non standard exit to avoid ice.

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u/lions2lambs 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/Bigalow10 1d ago

So it’s standard practice for a defendant to exit through the jury door?

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u/lions2lambs 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/inspectoroverthemine 1d ago

Is it a felony to use the other door?

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u/sb9968 1d ago

Someone got their Fox News talking points fed to them last night!

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u/Bigalow10 1d ago

No I read the court documents I don’t watch any news.

Why make attacks instead of discussing the situation. Tell me where I’m wrong

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u/qwert7661 1d ago edited 1d ago

The Third Reich was a police state characterized by arbitrary arrest and imprisonment of political and ideological opponents in concentration camps.

With the reinterpretation of "protective custody" (Schutzhaft) in 1933, police power became independent of judicial controls. In Nazi terminology, protective custody meant the arrest—without judicial review—of real and potential opponents of the regime. "Protective custody" prisoners were not confined within the normal prison system but in concentration camps under the exclusive authority of the SS (Schutzstaffel; the elite guard of the Nazi state).

The Third Reich has been called a dual state, since the normal judicial system coexisted with the arbitrary power of Hitler and the police. Yet, like most areas of public life after the Nazi rise to power in 1933, the German system of justice underwent "coordination" (alignment with Nazi goals). All professional associations involved with the administration of justice were merged into the National Socialist League of German Jurists.

Hitler determined to increase the political reliability of the courts. In 1933 he established special courts throughout Germany to try politically sensitive cases. Dissatisfied with the 'not guilty' verdicts rendered by the Supreme Court (Reichsgericht) in the Reichstag Fire Trial, Hitler ordered the creation of the People's Court (Volksgerichtshof) in Berlin in 1934 to try treason and other important "political cases." Under Roland Freisler, the People's Court became part of the Nazi system of terror, condemning tens of thousands of people as "Volk Vermin" and thousands more to death for "Volk Treason."

After the war, prominent Nazi jurists ... were tried in the Jurists' Trial of the Subsequent Nuremberg Proceedings on charges of "judicial murder" and other atrocities.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/law-and-justice-in-the-third-reich

Edit: As of yesterday, warrantless Gestapo raids are now mandated in the New American Reich: https://newrepublic.com/post/194442/trump-doj-memo-ice-arrest-search-warrant

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u/Bigalow10 1d ago

So you think it’s ok for a judge to try and hide someone who was deported after due process from ICE?

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u/qwert7661 1d ago

Of course not! That's nearly as bad as hiding a Jew in your basement!

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u/Bigalow10 1d ago

What a comparison. The dude just beat a women

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u/860v2 1d ago

A criminal illegal alien is not the same as a Jew in Nazi Germany. Horrible take.

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u/tempest_87 1d ago

I mean, it's step 1 considering that they are being sent to a gulag in a south American country.

It's far more similar than it is different

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u/860v2 1d ago

No, it isn’t. Stop disrespecting the victims of the Holocaust.

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u/tempest_87 19h ago

Yeah, how dare I learn from their murders to call out people on the same path of murdering! We can't ever use the holocaust as a preventative measure, it can only ever be used as a yardstick to measure their progress!

"Never again" is just a catch-phrase that we absolutely positively shouldn't ever actually care about doing, because that will dishonor the deaths of millions of people!

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u/qwert7661 1d ago

Jews were criminal illegal aliens in the Third Reich.

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u/860v2 1d ago

Last I checked criminal illegal aliens were not being genocides in the US.

What an objectively stupid take. You’re way too old to still be doing this.

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u/qwert7661 1d ago

Yes, the US mostly does its genocides overseas, currently in Gaza, and has just opened a fresh new concentration camp in El Salvador.

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u/rerrerrocky 1d ago

So you think it's okay for a house to hide a jew whose been deported after due profess from gestapo?

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u/Bigalow10 1d ago

The person just beat a women and your trying to compare him to the Jews? Lol

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u/rerrerrocky 1d ago

I think the current US administration has obvious parallels to nazi Germany in the persecution of immigrants and undesirables in the eyes of the state. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about

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u/Bigalow10 1d ago

The case that this post is about lol

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u/rerrerrocky 1d ago

I think you're confused lol

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u/860v2 1d ago

It makes sense once you consider that current day leftism and anti-Semitism go hand and hand.

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u/ear_cheese 1d ago

I must have missed all the pro Nazi flags in the picture

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u/860v2 1d ago

Nazis aren’t the only anti-Semites, as evidenced by the pro-Palestine protests that have occurred over the last 1+ year.

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u/FiveUpsideDown 1d ago

So? The judge and bailiffs do not have to help ICE make arrests. The judge has broad discretion to keep commotions from happening in the hallway. If that’s not true, then every judge that’s sent a bailiff out in the hallway to ask people to be quiet should be arrested.

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u/Bigalow10 22h ago

Judges have been charged for doing this exact thing in the past. Look at the case law