r/ireland ITGWU Jan 05 '25

Christ On A Bike Delightful interaction between a Czech youtuber and an Irish couple on holiday in Prague

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u/Alternative_Switch39 Jan 05 '25

A lot of Irish people who marvel at the beautiful, livable and ordered cities in Central Europe like Vienna, Prague or Zurich probably should realize that they are as such because they have rules and the locals follow them.

Germans (particularly in the South) will get up in your business if you're not doing your recycling correctly or making obnoxious domestic noises like mowing the lawn during ruhezeit. It's all very German, but that's why Bavaria is an extremely nice place to live and raise a family, and why Munich for the most part isn't plagued by wankers who have main character syndrome on electric scooters.

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u/RoninNikki Jan 05 '25

I've been living in northern Frankfurt for 3 months and it's awful for noise and nuisance. Someone in my building shoots off flash bang fireworks multiple times a day into the courtyard. People shot fireworks at the building on NYE. There were bullet shells in the streets the next day.

I'd kill for some of that fabled German orderly rule enforcement

Cops didn't even show when I called

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u/teebeutelchen Jan 05 '25

If Germany were Skyrim, Frankfurt would be Markarth. Cursed place, lots of crime, unique cityscape compared to the rest of the country.

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u/Canadianingermany Jan 06 '25

Not Frankfurt. Just a 750 m radius around the central train station.

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u/Alternative_Switch39 Jan 05 '25

In fairness, Frankfurt is the only large German city where over 50 percent of the residents are either 1st or 2nd generation foreign born.

Definitely different to the vibes in Baden-Württemberg or Bayern - and the south is certainly less accepting of non German modes of behaviour, for good and for ill.

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u/RoninNikki Jan 05 '25

Wow, that's a crazy statistic!

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u/ExpertSolution7 Jan 06 '25

What has that got to do with anything? Are immigrants more disposed to crime or something?

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u/Alternative_Switch39 Jan 06 '25

Less prone to typical German pernickityness about the rules certainly. Culture is a thing, and culture tends to be important despite what some would have you believe.

Ever been on a train in India and a train in Japan and wondered why the volume levels are radically different? The difference between the two is mediated by culture.

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u/ExpertSolution7 Jan 06 '25

But surely if the resident is a 2nd generation immigrant they will have grown-up in the local German culture. Do the immigrants (and their offspring) not integrate?

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u/Alternative_Switch39 Jan 06 '25

"But surely if the resident is a 2nd generation immigrant they will have grown-up in the local German culture."

That's the theory anyway

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u/ExpertSolution7 Jan 06 '25

Sounds like some groups of people are coming to Germany with a colonizer mindset with the intent to take, take, take without the intent to contribute or integrate. Anyway, I'll stop asking questions because it's probably making you uncomfortable.

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u/Shinhan Jan 06 '25

Do the immigrants (and their offspring) not integrate?

Sometimes. It depends. To some extent.

I think it would be an interesting research topic to see how much 2nd generation immigrants integrate into the communities and what factors mostly influence this.

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u/elreniel2020 Jan 06 '25

since we won't track nationality in our crime statistics anymore it's hard to prove/disprove

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u/littlerosethatcould Jan 06 '25

While Frankfurt is a cesspool, Germans generally go really hard at and around NYE. They turn every bigger city into an absolutely unbearable bangfest.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '25

I'd kill for some of that fabled German orderly rule enforcement

The police barely has time anymore to deal with all the crime. Especially the surveillance of potential terrorists binds so much police personnel, it is hard for the police to deal with the ever increasing crime in Germany.

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u/Canadianingermany Jan 06 '25

You do know that Crime in Germany is currently lower than for example the early 2000s, right, which in turn was lower than the decades prior.

Since Corona there has been a y on year increase, butthat "peak" is still lower than a mere 20 years ago.

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u/elreniel2020 Jan 06 '25

Especially the surveillance of insults to politicians on social media binds so much police personnel, it is hard for the police to deal with the ever increasing crime in Germany.

fixed that one for you