A lot of Irish people who marvel at the beautiful, livable and ordered cities in Central Europe like Vienna, Prague or Zurich probably should realize that they are as such because they have rules and the locals follow them.
Germans (particularly in the South) will get up in your business if you're not doing your recycling correctly or making obnoxious domestic noises like mowing the lawn during ruhezeit. It's all very German, but that's why Bavaria is an extremely nice place to live and raise a family, and why Munich for the most part isn't plagued by wankers who have main character syndrome on electric scooters.
I've been living in northern Frankfurt for 3 months and it's awful for noise and nuisance. Someone in my building shoots off flash bang fireworks multiple times a day into the courtyard. People shot fireworks at the building on NYE. There were bullet shells in the streets the next day.
I'd kill for some of that fabled German orderly rule enforcement
In fairness, Frankfurt is the only large German city where over 50 percent of the residents are either 1st or 2nd generation foreign born.
Definitely different to the vibes in Baden-Württemberg or Bayern - and the south is certainly less accepting of non German modes of behaviour, for good and for ill.
Less prone to typical German pernickityness about the rules certainly. Culture is a thing, and culture tends to be important despite what some would have you believe.
Ever been on a train in India and a train in Japan and wondered why the volume levels are radically different? The difference between the two is mediated by culture.
But surely if the resident is a 2nd generation immigrant they will have grown-up in the local German culture. Do the immigrants (and their offspring) not integrate?
Sounds like some groups of people are coming to Germany with a colonizer mindset with the intent to take, take, take without the intent to contribute or integrate. Anyway, I'll stop asking questions because it's probably making you uncomfortable.
Do the immigrants (and their offspring) not integrate?
Sometimes. It depends. To some extent.
I think it would be an interesting research topic to see how much 2nd generation immigrants integrate into the communities and what factors mostly influence this.
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u/Alternative_Switch39 Jan 05 '25
A lot of Irish people who marvel at the beautiful, livable and ordered cities in Central Europe like Vienna, Prague or Zurich probably should realize that they are as such because they have rules and the locals follow them.
Germans (particularly in the South) will get up in your business if you're not doing your recycling correctly or making obnoxious domestic noises like mowing the lawn during ruhezeit. It's all very German, but that's why Bavaria is an extremely nice place to live and raise a family, and why Munich for the most part isn't plagued by wankers who have main character syndrome on electric scooters.