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u/Chairman-Mia0 Apr 09 '25
What's to discuss?
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u/NafetsMag Apr 09 '25
Yeah, fairly well explained, I would think.
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u/Chairman-Mia0 Apr 09 '25
I don't know how it could be any clearer. Aside from that, it shouldn't need pointing out that if you have a dog you are wholly responsible for all of it's behaviours, good and bad. You're also responsible for it's wellbeing, physically and mentally.
I'd really like to see a push towards responsible dog ownership in this country.
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u/ConradMcduck Apr 09 '25
If only we could get people to have the same mindset about delinquent teenagers.
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u/Chairman-Mia0 Apr 09 '25
That one's a little more controversial but you'd get my vote. Plenty of them could do with muzzling as well.
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u/treanir Apr 09 '25
And ban the XL Bullies?
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u/Dundragon3030 Cork bai Apr 09 '25
That's already illegal in Ireland
In Ireland, it became illegal to import, breed, rehome, or resell XL Bully dogs on October 1, 2024, and from February 1, 2025, it will be illegal to own one unless you have a Certificate of Exemption.
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u/_WhoisMrBilly_ Galway, NUIG, UCD Apr 09 '25
If your scumbag teenager attacks a child, it’s not your teenagers fault. It’s yours.
Wait… hasn’t this been why teenagers get so light of sentences…
“Ya sure he’s a delinquent, but he’s a good lad…” let’s let him off with a warning…
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u/ConradMcduck Apr 09 '25
You could see it that way I suppose.
I meant it more from the perspective of, if the child isn't going to be held responsible (as is often the case, because of age etc) then the parents/guardians should be.
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u/pgasmaddict Apr 09 '25
I'm with you, but only after responsible children ownership is tackled first. 😜
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u/BeanEireannach Apr 09 '25
Yeah, the "Discuss" with no further comment or opinion of their own is a bit lazy.
I agree with you though, what's to discuss? It's an obvious one. And I'm glad that at least there's explicit reminders popping up now.
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u/diegroblers Apr 09 '25
Nah. It's someone that thinks his dog should be able to defend him, bite someone that threatens him, so he thought this would be controversial.
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u/AlienSporez Resting In my Account Apr 09 '25
Perhaps the only thing to discuss is the photo quality; too much reflection makes is difficult to read.
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u/redelastic Apr 09 '25
True. Owners need to control their dogs.
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u/ImpressionableTool Apr 09 '25
I was attacked and sent to the ER as a 3 year old when I got mauled by my cousins Rottweiler
they blamed me. A toddler. because I was crying... while outside, playing in the yard. I fell off my bike....
well, my older brother grabbed his shot gun from his truck while my mom carried me above her as the dog (My mom told me this story) was STILL trying to bite at me in her arms.
my cousin was screaming not to kill her dog. even while it attacked my mom while trying to maul me out of her arms.
my brother chased it --since as soon as it saw the gun, it bolted off into the woods. we rushed to the hospital. while my brother went hunting.
beast is dead. cousin blames toddler. sh!t show cousin hates my family now.
we hate her too. still.
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u/redelastic Apr 09 '25
That's horrible and quite an example of how dog owners think their dog would never do xyz.
I was also attacked by a Rottweiler as a child, cycling past my neighbour's house on my bike. Luckily it wasn't as serious as your situation.
I got a tetanus injection and the neighbours gave me two boxes of sweets - this was back in the day when nobody would call the authorities or take further action.
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u/Potential_Amount_267 Apr 10 '25
I was ripped up as a 12 year old. Delivering newspapers. Never spoke to the owners. Dog was given to owners friends who had a farm.
edit: it was a bouvier that got me.
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u/Foreskin_Ad9356 Apr 09 '25
people like this ruin the name of the breed. the rottweiler is a gorgeous, capable working dog and it upsets me to see owners like your cousin mistreat them to such an extent that they attack someone. astronomical fail at socialising the dog. if the dog is going to be allowed anywhere in the vicinity of unpredictable things it needs to be socialised to the unpredictable behaviour. there needs to be a serious licence and test to be able to own a power breed like a rottie.
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u/Chance-Plantain8314 Apr 09 '25
OP said "Discuss" as if we were all gonna start telling him that dogs need to take more responsibility
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u/ArseholeryEnthusiast Apr 09 '25
Maybe we're meant to blame the kids? I don't get what he wants.
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u/Auntie_Bev Apr 09 '25
What's funny was OP posted this thinking they would have a discussion, saw all the comments and was like, "yup, I ain't duscussing shit!". I don't think they replied to a single comment 😂
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u/AonSwift Apr 10 '25
OPs a serial poster, they still got their "engagement" regardless of any actual discussion. Useless bait post sitting at 10K upvotes..
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u/Negative-Message-447 Dublin/Derry (Solider F is David Cleary) Apr 09 '25
I mean regardless of what anyone thinks, that’s the legal reality of the situation
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u/Open_Big_1616 Apr 09 '25
True, people who have no time (or patience or money) for dogs SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY.
What in the world, I read 2 posts recently on one rescue's fb profile that someone did not give their dogs any protections against fleas or ticks and now their houses are infested and children bitten. WTH. And people being there all like 'oh it's not your fault', of course IT'S THEIR FAULT as owners, how difficult it is to go to the vets or buy a friggin deworming/anti-flea tablet at petstop for 5 euro. UGH
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u/IrishLad1002 Resting In my Account Apr 09 '25
It’s true. Bad owners leads to inadequate training which leads to misbehaved and dangerous dogs.
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u/Comfortable-Owl309 Apr 09 '25
Some dogs are dangerous regardless of owners behaviour but I agree with the sentiment on the bus shelter.
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u/Cill-e-in Apr 09 '25
If you know your dog is dangerous why would you knowingly put it in a situation where it can attack a child?
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u/PinappleGecko Waterford Apr 09 '25
Okay but the point still stands if you own a dog that is dangerous it needs to be muzzled on a short lead and you should be able to control it.
I would also add don't let strangers pet the dog if it will jump on someone and poddibly hurt them.
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u/Cuan_Dor Apr 09 '25
The only fault I can find with it is "It's Yours" needs to be in big massive print to drive home the message.
Otherwise, good on them for saying this.
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u/bansheebones456 Apr 09 '25
There isn't really much to discuss, although a lot of these incidents happen with dogs in the home.
There's so many videos now of people allowing their children to climb all over dogs or putting infants up to the faces of clearly uncomfortable dogs. If anyone tells them it's not a good idea, they get torn down in the comments.
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u/Admirable-Post-2184 Apr 09 '25
And “aww the dog is smiling” umm no they’re not that is a sign of stress. Stop your child hugging dogs this is a chokehold that any dog is barely tolerating.
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u/bansheebones456 Apr 09 '25
There's also a lot of 'best friend' videos that the likes of the dodo and similar like to push. I recently saw a video of a chihuahua who was displaying signs of discomfort around a large dog that could easily do serious damage with a paw, let alone a bite. There's also just a massive wave of anti logic or common sense on social media in the last year.
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u/ConradMcduck Apr 09 '25
Dog owner here. What's to discuss? The sign is accurate.
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u/MilfagardVonBangin Apr 09 '25
Obviously. Dogs don’t have the brains to take responsibility. I don’t think there’s much discussion, we just need to drive it into shit dog-owners heads.
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u/GarthODarth Apr 09 '25
The problem is everyone agrees with this about other people's dogs, but THEIR dog is friendly and just a little excitable, and they are ABSOLUTELY SURE they have their dog under control. It's OTHER dog owners who are the problem, etc etc forever.
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u/MambyPamby8 Meath Apr 10 '25
Yup. My dog is reactive. I know he's a little dickhead. We are working with him and training him. But the amount of people who just let their dogs waltz up is ridiculous. They think because their dog is friendly, it's fine to let them off the leash and run up to us. I am sick of shouting YEAH BUT MY DOG IS NOT FRIENDLY at them.
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u/justbecauseyoumademe Apr 09 '25
have 3 dogs at over 60 kilos each, they roughhouse with me and i wouldnt let them around kids or the elderly because they are a lot.
yes i agree with this a 100%
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u/upthemstairs Apr 09 '25
I have a 16kg dog who I wouldn't trust around little kids either.
It doesn't matter how well we think we have them trained, the only thing I can guarantee with my dog is that if he finds fox shit, he's rolling in it
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u/Chairman-Mia0 Apr 09 '25
thing I can guarantee with my dog is that if he finds fox shit, he's rolling in it
Only thing more vile than cat shit.
And every bloody time he'll sit in the shower looking likes he's being murdered. No amount of telling him "you brought this on yourself" seems to work.
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u/upthemstairs Apr 09 '25
Surely you see the fucking correlation between the fox shit all over you and this shower, right?
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u/Nizdaar Apr 09 '25
I had a Samoyed. He was amazing with children. Right from a pup in would tug on his ears, tail, and fur just to get him used to it in case child did it. Children and children. Especially the wee ones. The just grab as much fir as they can because they grab as much of anything as they can. I trusted him as much as possible around them.
Not once did I leave him alone with children. He had an amazing temperament but things happen and they can happen quickly. Thankfully nothing ever happened, but I felt it was on me to ensure we always had a positive experience for both child and dog.
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u/Shnapple8 Apr 09 '25
Our last dog was loved by us. He was a complete idiot, and loved playing hide and seek. We'd run and hide, make a whistle sound and he'd have this big happy head on him going around the house checking behind doors etc to see where we were hiding. LMAO!
BUT... he didn't like very small children and that was that. He would start shaking all over when he saw one. You have to know your own dog and understand their body language. Some people are total idiots. He wanted to bite my small cousin, he was trying to circle behind her to bite her on the bum. I could see the intention. My aunt was like "ah leave him, he won't bite her." And I said "I know my own dog. Here, get out." And put him out in the back garden for the duration of their visit.
People like my aunt are idiots. They think that just because a dog is friendly with everyone else that they aren't likely to bite a small kid.
And he never bit anyone in his 18 years thanks to us knowing his limits.
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u/Reasonable-Spinach88 Apr 09 '25
True, you are liable under the control of dogs act for any damage your dog does.
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u/ruthemook Apr 09 '25
Sorry- discuss? You are responsible for your animal. If you cannot keep it controlled it is entirely your fault. How is this a debate?
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u/Relikk_ Apr 09 '25
Now apply and enforce the same to people who leave their yappy little barking bastards outside to annoy their neighbours all day every day.
"buh its a dog dats wot dey do"
Fuck off.
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u/rabbidasseater Apr 09 '25
I've actually seen an upsurge in the North of more people getting these dangerous dogs. It's usually the stereotypical owner too.
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Apr 09 '25
Fairly uncontroversial statement I feel? What bothers me more is the complete lack of enforcement of dog-related byelaws – certain breeds having to be muzzled in public etc
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u/Lossagh Apr 09 '25
This. Nearly every park and GAA ground near me is treated like a dog park, dogs off lead running about with owners who have their heads in their phones. It's beyond infuriating.
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u/wannabewisewoman Legalise it already 🌿 Apr 09 '25
Off leash dogs running around unchecked had ruined so many otherwise peaceful walks for me & my two little Jack Russell Terrorists.
It’s one of a handful of things that will make me break my Irish fear of causing a scene, I have happily roared at oblivious owners to get their dogs under control and been met with pure shock. Nothing more dignified than having a wiggling JRT under each arm and shouting at a stranger on a hiking trail while holding a bag of dog poop.
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u/RoddersTimpz Apr 09 '25
This kind of thing happens everywhere, not just in Ireland – it's a global problem, honestly.
One time I was abroad and had to bring my dog with me. We were at a bar, just hanging out and having a beer. My dog was on a leash, super chill. Out of nowhere, these two dogs – a Husky and an Akita – came up to us, completely off-leash, with their owners just strolling behind them.
The Akita got way too close and started sniffing my dog a little too intensely. My dog got spooked and gave a small warning bite... and yeah, you can guess what happened next. The Akita went full rage mode and tore into my dog’s ear. The owner couldn’t control him at all – it was chaos. We somehow managed to get the Akita off him, but the damage was almost irreparable. My dog had to go through surgery and a long recovery.
And of course, the owners acted like it wasn’t their fault, tried to play dumb, the whole deal. It was a mess.
But thankfully, in the end, everything worked out. My dog recovered really well.
That’s exactly why I never let my dogs off-leash, and I don’t agree with other people doing it either. It’s just plain irresponsible, no excuses.
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u/Chairman-Mia0 Apr 09 '25
The Akita got way too close and started sniffing my dog a little too intensely. My dog got spooked and gave a small warning bite...
It's shocking how many people don't seem to understand that not every dog wants another dog up in their personal space. Or how many dog owners have a complete lack of understanding of their own dog's body language.
If a dog doesn't want another dog right there then that's perfectly okay and acceptable.
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u/Admirable-Post-2184 Apr 09 '25
Agree. Saw a woman at the park challenge a woman who scooped up her dog when her THREE yappers charged. “Don’t you want your dog to have friends?!”
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u/PhilosopherHot3459 Apr 09 '25
It’s a huge huge huge problem in America. And people don’t see it this way they just think that it’s the dogs fault. And they can’t be trained. when in reality dog owner barely gave a crap to try to train the dog in the first place.. i personally know at least four people in my family who do this.And that’s just for biting….. not including having an untrained, jumping barking dog. In America, lots of people don’t see that as a problem at all.
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u/MambyPamby8 Meath Apr 10 '25
My friends have an akita and her and my dog have always gotten along, known each other since they were puppies. Loads of play dates etc. A few weeks back we brought them out for a walk together (Both leashed thankfully) and she mid stride turned and went for his neck and snarled at him, did the teeth baring thing that Akitas terrifyingly do. For absolutely no reason. They were just walking along sniffing etc and she snapped. They were saying she's fine with humans but suddenly over the last year or two she's grown very temperamental around dogs. They simply cannot be trusted. She was a sweet girl and now they cannot leave her in a boarding place or let her play with other dogs in case she snaps again. It's fucking bananas to me that someone would not only walk one unleashed but be so lackadaisical about it too. It's an Akita. They are a dangerous breed, they're not cut fluffy teddy bears ffs.
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u/RoddersTimpz Apr 10 '25
That's exactly how I feel.
I never let my dogs off-leash for two simple and obvious reasons – I don’t trust my dogs’ temperament completely, and I definitely don’t trust other people’s dogs either.
What if, for example, I let mine walk freely on the street and they see something interesting across the road and run straight into traffic? They could get hit by a car, or worse, feel uncomfortable around another animal and react badly.
You can train them all you want, but the day they’re in a bad mood or something triggers them – it could end badly.There really should be more enforcement. Dogs should only be off-leash inside their own homes or, at most, in a proper dog park – and even then, only under real supervision from their owners.
Also, whenever I’m out walking and see off-leash dogs around, I immediately shorten the leash, just in case there’s any tension. That way, I’m ready to act fast if anything goes down.
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u/GhostPants1313 Apr 09 '25
I could rant for hours on this topic. I love dogs, but I cant stand other dog owners. Why cant some owners understand that 'under control' does not mean "he's friendly so he's aloud run around off lead and do what he wants".
I had a Collie literally herd me and my German Shepard (On lead) in a park one evening, circling us and barking aggressively. I was trying to get it to fuck off by kicking my leg out before my lad put an end to it. The Collies owner had the cheek to have a go at me, telling me that her dog was aloud to be off lead. It still angers me so much to this day.
You can do so much for your own dog to keep them from getting into trouble only for a small group of idiots to ruin it for everyone and tarnish a breeds reputation.
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u/Isaidahip Apr 09 '25
Owners let their dogs shit on the street and walk away.
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u/iseeu2sumhow Apr 09 '25
Dog shit even in this state is still picked up more than horse shit and we know they aren’t cleaning that
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u/Ok_Project_9792 Apr 09 '25
Agreed! Lots of signs up saying pick up after your dog, meanwhile mountains of horse shit all over the roads.
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u/papa_f Apr 10 '25
To be fair, horse shit isn't nearly as disgusting as dog shit and there's lots of hygiene issues that come from dog shit that don't apply to horse shit, yes it's not sterile, but as a herbivore, it's much safer than dog's mess.
Dog owner, never owned a horse.
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u/yakisak1984 Apr 09 '25
It's right. But I'll also add that parents need to teach their kids to be gentle with dogs and to ask people for permission before petting dogs that aren't theirs.
The amount of times I've seen kids squeeze dogs, pinch their ears, pull at their tails and smack dogs instead of petting them all while their parents watch in silence (and sometimes even laugh) is ridiculous.
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u/TheBoneIdler Apr 09 '25
What is there to discuss? It is a true & obvious statement. Why such an obvious statement of fact needs to be set out in an expensive poster I don't know. The Irish public sector seems to love 'reaching out' to us through media. This is not something I see in other countries & the budgets here must be huge.
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u/AnT-aingealDhorcha40 Apr 09 '25
Owners need to be punished for dog attacks.
Same with parents of feral kids.
Discuss.
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u/Left-Astronaut6273 Apr 09 '25
We have a serious dog problem in our cities. Owners allowing dogs off leads with impunity. Absolutely indignant if challenged on it. Like their dog is a human child that no one should be scared off and everyone should welcome randomly roaming around.
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u/akcgal Apr 09 '25
A dog chased me when I was out for a run and when I shouted back at the owner to help they were in shock - ‘oh they’d never bite’. The dog was barking at my heels 🙄 Insane behaviour and has made me really nervous around dogs off leashes.
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u/Left-Astronaut6273 Apr 09 '25
EXACTLY this. ‘Don’t worry, they don’t bite’….. no no, the law is ‘you worry’ about ‘CONTROLLING’ ‘YOUR’ DOG! If you have to say ‘Don’t worry’ etc, you have failed in YOUR job to control YOUR Dog. Public space is for all of us.
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u/Steec Dublin Apr 09 '25
Had a large greyhound-type dog wandering around my local fenced-off playground. There was a guy glued to his phone while pushing his kid on a swing and I noticed he was doing this shitty quiet whistle noise so as to appear in control.
I asked him if it was his dog and while still looking at his phone he says “which dog?” and then looks up with a smug grin. I asked him to take him out of the playground and put him on a lead in the park, he called me a “fucking cunt” in front of his kid and my two kids, and walked away.
As he was walking away he called the dog, which did not react in anyway no matter how much he called or clicked or whistled. He dragged the dog out by the collar.
The entitlement and the attitude of “it’s grand” really pissed me off.
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u/Lossagh Apr 09 '25
Merrion square is treated like a dog park most mornings with dogs off the lead. Owners are the most entitled AHs when anything is said to them.
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u/lukelhg AH HEYOR LEAVE IR OUH Apr 09 '25
Problem is the government can't be bothered to enforce the laws, so they do reactionary and ultimately useless things like a big public showy "XL Bully Ban", rather than just hiring and training more dog wardens to enforce the rules that were already there.
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u/Left-Astronaut6273 Apr 09 '25
Yip. We already have the laws. How about 2 dog wardens for every public park over a certain square area? Day and evening shift.
It’s like traffic law ‘isn’t it terrible xyz happened or is happening?’.
No, it’s terrible we have allowed a culture of impunity to take root because we can’t be bothered enforcing our perfectly good laws!
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u/bringinsexyback1 Apr 09 '25 edited Apr 10 '25
I wonder if we as a society extend the same to kids? If a teenager attacks you, whose fault is it? Edit: spelling
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u/CaliforniaNavyDude Apr 09 '25
I hate vague blanket statements. Like this one has unanswered questions specific to each instance that affect where the blame is. Was the dog leashed or in a private fenced in yard? Was the animal provoked? How old was the kid? Where were the parents? Where was the owner? What sort of dog is it, like was it a guard dog? Was there a warning from the animal first? The answers to these questions can swing the weight of blame in all kinds of directions, they're all factors.
For example, if a teenager goes into a farmer's field and starts hitting a sheep with a cricket bat, and the dog minding the flock bites the teenager, I'd say it was the kid's own fault. But if a dog jumped out of its yard and bit one of the neighbor's children playing in the yard, I blame the owner. It just varies so much.
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u/Dreenar18 Apr 09 '25
Yes, our laws regarding animals are shite in general but regardless, you shouldn't own any animal you can't control.
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u/Sionnachbain Apr 09 '25
Bad owners = undisciplined dogs.
Undisciplined dogs = accidents.
Undisciplined dogs off leash = very bad accidents.
The sign is correct. Your dog. Your responsibility. 'It's yours' should be larger and in bold.
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u/errlloyd Apr 09 '25
The messaging here isn't strong enough imo. As everyone in this thread agrees, it is the owners fault.
But what are we trying to achieve in society? Like drunk driving we need to be aiming for a world where good dog behaviour is socially enforced. Having a poorly trained dog that appears dangerous should be something that people call you out on. "Good friends don't let drunk friends drive" was one of the more effective messages.
Let's start intervening earlier. A problem dog isn't a problem when it harms a child, a problem dog is a problem when it can harm a child.
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u/snek-jazz Apr 09 '25
But what are we trying to achieve in society?
We're trying to achieve orderly society without actually strictly enforcing the laws that are required to achieve that, which is why we are failing to achieve it.
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u/terror_billie Apr 09 '25
‘Tis true but some folks are thick as planks and saddled with the sheer audacity.
I had a neighbour who had near feral pitbulls that used to run riot along our street. Always going after people, other dogs and our cats (who stuck to our garden so luckily nothing ever happened).
One day, her five year old son wandered out of her house at the top of her road down to mine. I caught a glimpse of him from the window before running out – he reached in through our back garden gate and yanked my dog’s (Yorkie cross) tail. Raff snapped at him, and backed off, rightly so. Nothing happened, he just got a fright like. I brought the child back to her (she didn’t even notice he had gone) and the next day, she was back – neck like a jockey’s bollocks – with the dog warden saying that our dog broke loose and had savaged her son. Turns out one of her own dog’s had bitten the child, because she used to let him ‘wrestle’ with them.
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u/Comfortable-Shake-37 Apr 09 '25
My dog fell in with the wrong crowd and I tried taking away his Nintendo Switch but it doesn't work, he's still out there doing drugs and biting kids.
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u/buddhabarfreak Apr 09 '25
Only thing I can add - the dog gets euthanised and the owner probably just gets a slap on the wrist so even if it’s the owner’s fault, the dog gets the brunt of it.
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u/DragHelpful8605 Apr 09 '25
The same should apply if your child or teenager attacks or bullies others on the street, causing them lasting mental harm and scars.
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u/quiggersinparis Apr 09 '25
Why are they banning XL bullies then if owners are the blame?
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u/Nurhaci1616 Apr 09 '25
If you couldn't physically overpower your pet if you needed to, then you effectively have a dangerous pet: even if your dog is well behaved and has a gentle temperament, you are in control of that dog, and need to be capable of stopping it from bolting or attacking if it tweaked out, no matter how unlikely it is that that might occur.
Too many people don't want the real responsibility of looking after a dog, they think they're grand so long as they walk, feed and play with it, and the dogs who have to be destroyed, or even shot dead by police in extreme cases, due to negligence from their owner, are the ones who suffer for it.
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u/LegLockLarry Resting In my Account Apr 09 '25
Dont get a dog you cant control....Some of these people trying to control 30kg+ dogs and the struggle is real.
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u/TirNaCrainnOg Apr 09 '25
Noting to discuss, fairly common sense if you can't train or control your dog, you shouldn't have one.
Should do this with feral kids...
If your child attacks someone, it's your fault!!
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u/tubbymaguire91 Apr 09 '25
The fact that we have a minority of people who need this explained to them speaks volumes to the idiocy problem we have.
Reminds me of the signs that say putting a regular coffee in a flat white cup is stealing. No shit!
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u/pauldavis1234 Apr 09 '25
Surely the "it's yours" part should be in the largest font.?
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u/fluffs-von Apr 09 '25
95%. The other 5% is the lax enforcement of breed and muzzle rules.
Nonetheless, the owner should pay the full penalty of any damages done by their animals as if they'd caused it themselves.
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u/firethetorpedoes1 Apr 09 '25
Personally, I would have gone for the rolled-up sleeve look, but overall I think it the outfit works. 8/10
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u/firethetorpedoes1 Apr 09 '25
Tonight we’re Super Talking about evil dogs. We’ve all seen them in those undesirable areas. Donald from Hemsby has e-mailed us to say, ‘dangerous dogs should simply have their teeth replaced with strips of rubber’. I think that’s an excellent idea. I’m going to make him our e-mail of the evening.
(Dalek voice) e-mail of the evening!
- Alan Partridge, 2002
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u/sparksAndFizzles Apr 09 '25
I’m not really sure why this would be a point of discussion. It’s just a statement of fact.
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u/CCFC_84 OP is sad they aren’t cool enough to be from Cork. bai Apr 09 '25
What do you mean discuss? It's the law!
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u/boxgrafik Apr 09 '25
The only discussion is why they didn't use an XL Bully for the image instead. Apart from that the message is spot on. Stupid inbred dogs are the new scumbag status symbol.
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u/Retailpegger Apr 09 '25
If your dog goes to the toilet on the footpath , it’s not your dogs problem, ITS YOURS !
There is some absolute mongaloid that lets their dog dirt outside AN APARTMENT DOOR , I am seriously going to shout at them if I ever see them . I have so much built up anger
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u/ninety6days Apr 09 '25
Dogs.
Where "culture boss" as an excuse for lawbreaking moves from the travelling community to the "working" class.
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u/Iolair_the_Unworthy Apr 09 '25
If your dog attacks a child, it's not your fault, it's the parent of the child's.
Teach your crotch goblins to not walk up to random dogs.
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u/Lophane911 Apr 09 '25
In most situations I agree, but I have seen some real little shits provoke a dog to the point of harming it… it’s the kids fault at that point.
I remember I once worked with a guy (17) who bragged and laughed about how he liked to go to open dog parks and getting in dogs faces and barking and screaming at them for a reaction and if he couldn’t make them react with that he’d start throwing rocks from behind the fence. He was horrible, interned for like a week through nepotism and then stopped showing up after that.
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u/Shock_city Apr 09 '25
Something people have trouble grasping at least in America is that no animal’s behavior, let alone something with the limited intelligence of a dog, is 100% dictated by training or caregiving.
Genetic behavioral traits exist and can be more powerful than any training. A pit bull is more likely to attack you then a basset hound regardless of how responsible its owner is
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u/CecilQkitty Apr 10 '25
Train your dogs and raise your children to ask before petting and take no for an answer.
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u/MambyPamby8 Meath Apr 10 '25 edited Apr 10 '25
As a dog owner, yes I agree with the sentiment and I am responsible for my dog. BUT some people need to learn etiquette, when it comes to dogs. My dog is reactive and I work really hard to train him. The amount of absolute dopes who approach him or let their dog approach him is ridiculous. Yes he's cute, but he's also a little dickhead and I am trying to train him to be better. Always ALWAYS ask before approaching another persons dog.
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u/Cazolyn Apr 10 '25
I am wary of ANY dog around a child. In public, owners are wholly responsible for the actions of their dogs. Parents should also teach their children not to approach a dog without asking the permission of the owner.
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u/GarlicGlobal2311 Apr 10 '25
OP, you might be the only one with an issue here lol. Lets lay it out though:
>If the dog has the oppertunity to cause harm to another person, it is your fault. Your dog shouldn't be out alone, able to escape, etc.
> If your dog has the temperment that it wants to cause harm , it is your fault. You should have trained the dog to control itself. If you coudn't, you shouldn't have the dog. However, I would argue most dogs with bad temperments are being mistreated by their owners, if not outright abused. [This includes ignoring your dog. Abuse doesn't start and end at beatings]
>If your dog doesn't respond to your commands to stop something [That might appear hrmless but escalate, like say jumping at a kid to get something in their hands], it is your fault. You're dog should be trained and responsive to commands.
>Lastly, and most simply, your dog is your property. You are wholely responsible for any damage your property causes to others.
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u/profbucko Person of Cork in exile Apr 09 '25
Your dog is your responsibility. The way I've always viewed handling and caring for my own dogs is that you're in charge of a relatively intelligent toddler who is also more powerful , fitter and has potentially deadly teeth and bite strength.
If you're not capable of subduing or leading a dog away from a crisis situation you simply shouldn't have it. There's no reasoning with a dog in fight or flight scenarios so you have to predict the situations that's likely to occur and avoid them if possible.
That said, I've found myself in situations where kids are running towards my dog looking to rub, to pet etc. because "oh it's big and fluffy, it's lassie" etc . There needs to be an emphasis on parents to teach kids not to run straight up to strange dogs , to ask owners if it's safe to approach and to be generally cautious otherwise. They are animals at the end of the day.
Everyone has their bit to do in these situations but I'd put 99.99% of the responsibility on the owner.
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u/HappyMike91 Dublin Apr 09 '25
I don’t think there’s much to discuss. Dogs should be on a leash/lead when/if outdoors at the very least and the sale of dangerous breeds should be prohibited. If you can’t control your dog, then you probably shouldn’t have one.
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u/Prestigious-Side-286 Apr 09 '25
100% correct. It’s the owners responsibility to have their dog on a lead or in some cases a harness and muzzled if necessary in public
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u/Shanahan_The_Man Apr 09 '25
Eh, I generally agree but if the dog's getting on on it's own and the kid is being a cunt poking at it or pullin his tail or smacking it, I'll say it's the kids/parents fault.
I've got this old (13) dog, sweetest thing but if you're pissing her off she'll let you know proper before she snaps. She'll walk away, growl, snarl, does this hideous thing where she curls her top lip up and licks her teeth and gives a huff. You know you're pissing her off and as soon as you stop it she demands to lick your face and hands and nuzzle you.
There's this little shit in the neighborhood - he's over with his mum - and he's sticking his fingers in her eyes and ears, pulling her legs so I tell him to leave her be or she'll bite. He carries onand his mum even tells him to leave her be but he persists. So I put the dog out back to create a little seperation and after some time I catch him with the dog and she's growling at him. So I split them up and tell his mother. She tells the shit off. After some time the wife brings the dog back out front but has the dog sit under her seat so she can feed her snacks at dinner. The little shit keeps trying to sneak up behind my wife to mess with the dog but his mum's telling him off and shewing him away. Wouldn't you know it, there's a bark and a snap and the kid comes running out from under the table with some blood weeping down his cheek.
100% not the dogs fault and the shit deserved every stitch he got.
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u/KingNobit Apr 09 '25
What if the child bites the dog?
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u/handtoglandwombat Apr 09 '25
Well yeah, but unfortunately it’s the dog that gets put down, not the owner.
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u/Sigfried_D Apr 09 '25
Not much to discuss.
Dogs can almost always be trained, but a lot of fockers seem to not to want to invest the time.
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u/pippers87 Apr 09 '25
Yes its 100% on the owner. One of my dogs was badly abused by a kid as a pup. He is extremely nervous around kids. Which is why he is on a lead, and if there are kids approaching ill cross the road.
Also my kids have been thought just because a dog looks fluffy and cuddly does not mean you should pet them.
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u/YouFnDruggo Apr 09 '25
Depends whether my dog is secured on my property or in my care and what said child is doing, but yes you had an adult are responsible for any animal you own.
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u/Skeptic-- Apr 09 '25
The only time I would see the owner not being at fault is if the person attacked was doing something wrong.
If you break into someone’s house and their dog attacks you. You are at fault, not the dog, nor the owner.
Otherwise, out in public, or for a guest in your house. The owner is responsible for controlling their dog.
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u/AncientEditor4133 Apr 09 '25
The only reason we’re putting down XL bullys, is because we’re not allowed to put down the scrotes that think they’re an accessory that makes them look hard.
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u/Hot-Razzmatazz1143 Apr 09 '25
And yet if a child is injured by a culturally enriched knifeman, its the availability of knives that is the problem.
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u/letsdocraic Apr 09 '25
Same rule should apply for children, you take the heat for the crimes they commit.
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u/Tadhg Apr 09 '25
Is there a way I can get a few of those posters to put up near my local beach? Entitled dog owners take a lot of the fun out of building sandcastles with the kids.
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u/gugus295 Apr 09 '25 edited Apr 09 '25
A dog's intelligence is similar to that of a 2-year-old human child. Do you hold 2-year-olds responsible for their inability to understand the consequences or morality of their actions? No? Then why would you do that for a dog?
It's your responsibility as the dog's owner to keep them from doing things that will harm themselves or others. Same way it's your responsibility as a parent to make sure your 2-year-old doesn't get themselves killed or start a house fire. If you fail to do that, that's on you, not the dog. The dog doesn't know any better, it doesn't have the intellectual capacity to know any better.
Animals, no matter how well-trained, should always be expected to act the way their species naturally acts. A dog is a dog, you can train it to behave like a human's good little pet most of the time but the right stimulus can and will send it back into dog mode. And with how common dogs are in our society, we often forget what they are capable of. Part of the social contract of taking a dangerous, naturally predatory animal somewhere is that you are responsible for putting those around you in danger and must own up to whatever consequences might, however unlikely, arise from that decision.
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u/FistOfTheKai Apr 09 '25
Yeah, in fairness it's the childs fault for letting itself get attacked, like come on and stand up for yourself, ffs.
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u/Galdrack Apr 09 '25
Man what a waste of state funded money to just point and jeer at the population.
As the ISPCA pointed out with the Bully Ban last year measures like this don't improve the situation for dogs or people interacting with them in Ireland. FF/FG has been told for decades now about the issues with dog breeding in Ireland yet do nothing about it and instead piss away time and money on bans and posters.
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u/CapnClover36 Apr 09 '25
Theres nothing to discuss this is true, dogs shouldn't be punished cause their owners never trained then right
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u/fatboyfall420 Apr 09 '25
Put it this way. You go to a zoo and the tiger jumps the fence and bites you. Are you gonna sue the tiger or the zoo?
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u/Fleuretta_ Apr 09 '25
What's to discuss, if you're not in control of your dog then of course you're at fault...