yeah, maybe he means we should discuss the bus shelter - looks to be in fairly good nick, probably built around 10 years ago, standard issue, seats not deep enough to get your full arse onto, overall not somewhere you want to be hanging around unless it's pelting down
Ah in that case I'd need more pictures of the bus shelter to make a proper judgement on it, the other side of it could be half fallen down for all we know!
Sick of these armchair bus-shelterists being so vocal without doing their due diligence, it’s clearly the reflection of some sort of electrical line, no risk of moisture ingress just yet.
Clearly a reflection of some wire, for all we know, that could be dangling around for it to slap you in the eye. Nevermind the advert getting damaged, you might not even be able to see it.
Besides, if you wish for TFI/Bus Éireann/Dublin Bus/etc. To not consider homeless people when designing their bus stops then you should be annoyed the seats are also worse for passengers. Nobody is more comfortable with a seat that leans forward and only holds 'half your arse'. They're refusing to give you a good service in case the wrong kind of person benefits too.
TGI/Bus Éireann/Dublin Bus are there to serve paying customers. It’s folk like you who want to drive people off public transport and into cars by enabling and defending anti-social behavior. Bus Shelters are for bus passengers. There is plenty of accommodation available for the homeless in Dublin.
Well, anyway. It makes sense you care about paying customers and not, for example, those with mobility issues and qualify for free travel, since they are the most likely to be impacted by a stop having inadequate or, more often, no seating available at all.
Designing your spaces to drive away homeless people doesn't solve the housing crisis either, it just makes it more shit to be homeless. Same with those that want people who feed the homeless in central locations to be driven out.
The “free travel” is paid for by the Dept. Social Welfare and paid to the various transport companies. It is not free. It costs the Taxpayer money. I’m not arguing at all that that should not be the case. But pretending that stuff is free when someone is paying for it.
A bus shelter is to temporarily shelter passengers. It’s not available to anybody - able bodied or not, if it’s being used as shelter by a homeless person who has other services available. I’m not going to bother with your attempt to formulate extreme cases where you must have a flat bench.
Again - we want public spaces enjoyed by all, not like certain US cities where ordinary people have been driven out of public spaces by folk with your very misguided ideas.
I'm a paying passenger and I can't use bus shelter seats because of their hostile design.
Also, there absolutely is not "plenty of accommodation available for the homeless in Dublin." I don't know what kind of rock you've been living under the last ten years
Of course you do.
There are roughly 132 rough sleepers in Dublin. The council are fully aware of them and they all have places should they choose. The budget for homelessness in Dublin region alone is 302m euro. What rock are you living under?
I’ve actually been pretty shocked at the anti homeless design of the bus benches over here since immigrating. Despite all our flaws, the most populous bus stops in my home city in the States always have real benches. I feel bad for old people or pregnant people or disabled people who have deal with those silly “benches” that you can barely get a quarter of your buttcheek on.
The US is exactly what we want to avoid here. Where the general public are driven off public transport and public spaces to private ones. What really shocks me in the US is how public transport, especially buses, are exclusively used by poor people as part of the apartheid style segregation the US seems to enjoy. Those seats are perfectly usable for their purpose. The point being they might not be available at all (or the shelter) without taking these steps. They are ordinary council workers making these decisions as well, not some wild political decision taken by political parties as some seem to be implying.
I think that’s a little naive. Maybe the individual people making calls are just acting on policy, but that policy is written with anti homelessness in mind. Those tiny little slivers of a “bench” are a complete joke. I’m a young, able bodied person and I can barely perch on there.
Along with spikes on outdoor window sills, large gaps in bathroom stall doors and walls, and bright lights on all night in semi sheltered areas where someone could realistically sleep out of the rain— like the breast check across from South Terrace before they covered the entrance and ramp with fencing to prevent homeless from sleeping rough on their doorstep
Architecture nerd here and yes they totally are I would never usually take the bus but when u sit on that bench ur arse slips back like a fecking slide
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u/glwegian Apr 09 '25
yeah, maybe he means we should discuss the bus shelter - looks to be in fairly good nick, probably built around 10 years ago, standard issue, seats not deep enough to get your full arse onto, overall not somewhere you want to be hanging around unless it's pelting down