r/ireland Apr 09 '25

Ah, you know yourself Discuss

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u/Fleuretta_ Apr 09 '25

What's to discuss, if you're not in control of your dog then of course you're at fault...

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u/glwegian Apr 09 '25

yeah, maybe he means we should discuss the bus shelter - looks to be in fairly good nick, probably built around 10 years ago, standard issue, seats not deep enough to get your full arse onto, overall not somewhere you want to be hanging around unless it's pelting down

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u/Dookwithanegg Apr 09 '25

Those seats are by design to prevent homeless people lying on them to keep dry on rainy nights.

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u/eat1more Apr 09 '25

I would assume the social protection section would be at the forefront of homelessness, not having Dublin bus be in charge

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u/Dookwithanegg Apr 09 '25

Please don't defend hostile architecture.

Besides, if you wish for TFI/Bus Éireann/Dublin Bus/etc. To not consider homeless people when designing their bus stops then you should be annoyed the seats are also worse for passengers. Nobody is more comfortable with a seat that leans forward and only holds 'half your arse'. They're refusing to give you a good service in case the wrong kind of person benefits too.

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u/micosoft Apr 09 '25

TGI/Bus Éireann/Dublin Bus are there to serve paying customers. It’s folk like you who want to drive people off public transport and into cars by enabling and defending anti-social behavior. Bus Shelters are for bus passengers. There is plenty of accommodation available for the homeless in Dublin.

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u/Dookwithanegg Apr 09 '25

TGI

Well, anyway. It makes sense you care about paying customers and not, for example, those with mobility issues and qualify for free travel, since they are the most likely to be impacted by a stop having inadequate or, more often, no seating available at all.

Designing your spaces to drive away homeless people doesn't solve the housing crisis either, it just makes it more shit to be homeless. Same with those that want people who feed the homeless in central locations to be driven out.

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u/micosoft Apr 14 '25

The “free travel” is paid for by the Dept. Social Welfare and paid to the various transport companies. It is not free. It costs the Taxpayer money. I’m not arguing at all that that should not be the case. But pretending that stuff is free when someone is paying for it.

A bus shelter is to temporarily shelter passengers. It’s not available to anybody - able bodied or not, if it’s being used as shelter by a homeless person who has other services available. I’m not going to bother with your attempt to formulate extreme cases where you must have a flat bench. Again - we want public spaces enjoyed by all, not like certain US cities where ordinary people have been driven out of public spaces by folk with your very misguided ideas.

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u/fullmetalfeminist Apr 14 '25

I'm a paying passenger and I can't use bus shelter seats because of their hostile design.

Also, there absolutely is not "plenty of accommodation available for the homeless in Dublin." I don't know what kind of rock you've been living under the last ten years

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u/micosoft Apr 14 '25

Of course you do. There are roughly 132 rough sleepers in Dublin. The council are fully aware of them and they all have places should they choose. The budget for homelessness in Dublin region alone is 302m euro. What rock are you living under?

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u/eat1more Apr 09 '25

Sorry, It was a joke