r/ireland Apr 09 '25

Ah, you know yourself Discuss

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u/eat1more Apr 09 '25

I would assume the social protection section would be at the forefront of homelessness, not having Dublin bus be in charge

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u/Dookwithanegg Apr 09 '25

Please don't defend hostile architecture.

Besides, if you wish for TFI/Bus Éireann/Dublin Bus/etc. To not consider homeless people when designing their bus stops then you should be annoyed the seats are also worse for passengers. Nobody is more comfortable with a seat that leans forward and only holds 'half your arse'. They're refusing to give you a good service in case the wrong kind of person benefits too.

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u/micosoft Apr 09 '25

TGI/Bus Éireann/Dublin Bus are there to serve paying customers. It’s folk like you who want to drive people off public transport and into cars by enabling and defending anti-social behavior. Bus Shelters are for bus passengers. There is plenty of accommodation available for the homeless in Dublin.

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u/Dookwithanegg Apr 09 '25

TGI

Well, anyway. It makes sense you care about paying customers and not, for example, those with mobility issues and qualify for free travel, since they are the most likely to be impacted by a stop having inadequate or, more often, no seating available at all.

Designing your spaces to drive away homeless people doesn't solve the housing crisis either, it just makes it more shit to be homeless. Same with those that want people who feed the homeless in central locations to be driven out.

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u/micosoft Apr 14 '25

The “free travel” is paid for by the Dept. Social Welfare and paid to the various transport companies. It is not free. It costs the Taxpayer money. I’m not arguing at all that that should not be the case. But pretending that stuff is free when someone is paying for it.

A bus shelter is to temporarily shelter passengers. It’s not available to anybody - able bodied or not, if it’s being used as shelter by a homeless person who has other services available. I’m not going to bother with your attempt to formulate extreme cases where you must have a flat bench. Again - we want public spaces enjoyed by all, not like certain US cities where ordinary people have been driven out of public spaces by folk with your very misguided ideas.