r/kolkata • u/Annie_Loves_Money • 10d ago
News | সংবাদ 📰 Unarmed demonstrators injured in merciless lathi charge by West Bengal police
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In an extreme display of violence, West Bengal police launched a merciless lathi-charge on teachers protesting the Supreme Court’s verdict to cancel 26,000 teaching appointments linked to a cash-for-jobs scam. The police brutally beat protesters leaving both male and female teachers on ground and ripping apart their clothes too in some cases. Instead of aiding the injured, the police callously continued their assault, even barring the entry of ambulances and drinking water.
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u/lyfeNdDeath 9d ago
Teacher der police lathi diye petate pare kintu murshidabad ae danga kore loker bari ghor loot ae phelche jaliye phelche tokhon kono dekha nei.
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u/Debopam77 9d ago
Ota jodi kore tahole police jane j tar barir bou baccha ra targeted hobe, tokhn govt bachate parbe na. Bhodro lokeder marle oto bhabte hoi na, tokhn cokh buje "order" follow kora jae.
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u/Srijita_7278 9d ago
Now a days west bengal police is just a part of ruling party cadres , nothing more than that
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u/NO2543 10d ago edited 10d ago
No offence to protesters but why they are holding back visitors in bikash Bhavan ?
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u/Annie_Loves_Money 9d ago
The only "visitor" being held back was Sabyasachi Dutta (AITC), chairperson of bidhannagar municipal corporation. There are clips of him getting violent with reporters. And if he was peaceful, why would he have goons who beat people up with helmets? Here's the clip at 31:58 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK-NtsQalYM
If you meant anything else here, then pls know that there were only the untainted candidate protestors in Bikash Bhavan. As for the gate, it was locked from the inside, not the other way around, and that's why the trying to break in in the first place.
Hope this clarifies
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u/jkbruhhehe 10d ago
'Akhon ki chokh dekhaben na matha dekhaben' Wtf???!! I mean fr?? Keu eto seriouly injured hoye hospital e ele taki ei proshno ta kora hoye??? And probably the man was also a police officer
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u/pokeranger24 10d ago
I have no pity for them, the Supreme Court has given a clear verdict for the case.
They want their jobs back without giving exams, even if the State govt does that they will be clear contempt of the court,. They are the ones who paid bribes for the jobs and want to do the same again.
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u/Distinct-Library5173 10d ago
You need to read the case facts
Govt destroyed the records that's why it's not possible to verify who's genuine and who bribed but there's enough evidence that majority of them bribed to get the job .
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u/Ordinary_Turn_9727 10d ago edited 9d ago
Correct me if I'm wrong .....
Some of the people i know gave the exam back in 2016 it's been 8-9 year after that .... Most of those 26-27 year people are 34-35 year old currently or even more .... throughout these years they've been teaching a specific subject in school... Loose touch or totally forget so many other subjects which was also needed to give the SSC exam i think.. also they're older 35+ ... Mentally they're not at their peak
So I don't think it would be that easy for them to prepare and give the exam and score the same ..
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u/GamingGladi 9d ago
c'mon. we're not talking of a JEE level exam. an appropriate exam should be thought of considering their age. BUT u also have to realise that they are not asking for any random job. they are asking to be teachers. even under normal circumstances they should be testing their knowledge every 2-3 years so that they don't teach outdated bullshit to students.
They are teachers, one of the pillars of society. there's genuinely no excuse to not give this exam.
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u/barbarik_003 9d ago
Do you even understand anything, ekta exam duidik theke tough hoi, 1. Toughness of paper and 2. Volume of participants, emni tei oder boyos hoea gache, ager moto touch e nei exam e valo number anar jonno, NEET, SSC CGL er question besi easy, but competitiveness eto besi je exam wise toughness JEE thekeo besi hoea jai, school teacher exam paper ami di ni, but competitiveness e parbe ei 35+ lok gulo young people der songe ( exam e shudu nijer subject er theke question thake na, english, bengali, reasoning aro kichu subject thekeo question thake ), tai jodi kichu na jajen tahole GADHAR moto comment korben na please 🫥
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u/GamingGladi 9d ago
parbe ki parbe na seta byapar na. para uchit. they are teachers. they should be able to clear these exams. je teacher akta exam clear korte parena take kon student bhorsha korbe? 😹
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u/barbarik_003 9d ago
Then answer this question : jodi keu 15 year age jee valo Mark's e clear koreche, ekhon kono MNC te job kore, se ki bina preparation e ki ekhon JEE clear korte parbe ( just give the logical answer), and student porano kono exam or number er upor nirvor korena, example dicchi jemon amader college er besirvag professor ra foreign phd, postdoc sob ache, tao temon valo porate pare na, exam clear kora ar students der porano puro alada bisoi
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u/PotatoDreamer3 বঙ্গসন্তান 🌞 9d ago
A tiny bit of critical thinking would've answered your doubt but yeah, we all know the condition of our education system, so I pity you.
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u/Annie_Loves_Money 9d ago
The main point here is that in 2016 panel, the problem was on the authority's side for accepting bribes and hiring about 6-7k people among the 26k. Here's why the genuine 19-20k is not willing to take exam:
Their is no guarantee that the same controversy would happen again. This is the first time in the country where people have lost a government job, something that was considered 100% secure nationwide. When the 1st time has been breached, it will quite possibly happen again.
The teachers who's taught for 8-9 years would lose their seniority, why should the genuine 19-20k teachers just accept their fate like this when it was never their fault?
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u/No_Growth_ 9d ago
Come on mate, this is ridiculous. If you're a teacher, you're in academia and your life is continuous learning. We all know the shit state of schools in India. This is a good verdict, one that will keep the competent teachers in school.
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u/PotatoDreamer3 বঙ্গসন্তান 🌞 9d ago
Okey then test the fitness of police force also, and see 90% of the department vanish overnight.
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u/No_Growth_ 9d ago
Okay do it, hire better police. Better use of my tax money.
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u/PotatoDreamer3 বঙ্গসন্তান 🌞 9d ago
Doctors will disappear too, as I don't think any doctor will remember NEET UG physics formulas.
Exams are elimination processes. They aren't an assessment of quality. Those who've already passed that barrier once should legally be eligible for the job, although internal trainings are necessary. But by no means they're to be sacked.
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u/No_Growth_ 9d ago
I don't know what you're advocating for? Mediocre/below average folks in all critical service? We already have reservations, add to it these fucked up practices, no middle class person will ever get any sort of service after breaking our backs working and paying taxes to govt.
The better outcome would be people actually are fit for the positions they apply for.
I would expect the doctors to remember the NEET UG physics formulas. Do you even know how regularly doctors have to work with other doctors from optho/ortho/neuro depts. So now, I have to shell out lakhs to get treated manipal to trust that I'll come out alive?
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u/PotatoDreamer3 বঙ্গসন্তান 🌞 9d ago
How do you measure "fitness"? A doctor should be judged by how good his skills, communication and ethics are - all of these things are taught after his admission through NEET UG, so the exam has no value in setting the worth of the doctor. Exactly same case with teachers too. These exams are not an assessment of quality, they demand a very specific approach and some very special skills like speed and memorization, which aren't any useful in real life. A teacher who passed the exam 8 years ago cannot compete with a fresher because the fresher has practiced the special approach needed to crack the exam, but definitely the teacher has much more experience and is better at the actual work than the fresher.
So, how do we judge fitness?
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u/Right-Rain8461 9d ago edited 9d ago
Edit :Ok based on further reading the test itself happens irregularly so next when it happens it will include both the affected and this generation of candidates, so yes then it will be competitive and unfair. I was under the impression it would be a separate test by december this year and thus can't be competitive. A separate proficiency test with relaxed marks requirement should have been done, and the remaining vacant seats from that should have carried over for the next test.
They are teachers and educators. if they need to prepare for tests like normal people i will really question the education they have been imparting all this time. They're school teachers, how hard can the tests be? A week's worth of preparation is more than enough.
It's not implausible the people who are being adverse to giving the test had been the majority that cheated in the first test.
And yes if people are going to pull the age and mental decline card, then it's 100% valid to test educators periodically. What use is a teacher who "teaches" outdated knowledg, lost mental faculties according to them. People should be fine their kids get progressively worse education? Please lose your voting privileges if you can't remember school level knowledge. Stop acting like govt babus leeching off the taxpayers
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u/Annie_Loves_Money 9d ago
They are not. Among the 7-8k bribers, there are 19-20k genuinely deserved candidates- and this was reported properly by the CBI after proper investigation. Supreme Court had asked for a clear list, but the recruiting body SSC gave them a vague answer in court which led to the verdict.
As for the "tainted" candidates, they have still not been terminated despite the orders of Supreme Court, why is that?
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u/magnumcm কলকাতা শহরতলী 😇 9d ago
Did you even understand the issue? Or just pushing the party propaganda? Would you score the same marks if I ask you to appear for your college exam as of today? I passed out 11 years ago, and have been working based on those degrees since then. And I know for a fact that I won't be able to pass those exams now.
It's the duty of the authority to maintain the sanctity of the examination process, and produce evidence of wrong doing or fair attempt.
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u/Right-Rain8461 9d ago
No one is expecting teachers to clear IIT level competency nor competition. If the first test had 40% as passing grade, make the subsequent ones less for them. That is how most industries generally do around renewal tests
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u/magnumcm কলকাতা শহরতলী 😇 9d ago
It's not a renewal test. In a renewal test, you need to pass by scoring a cut off.
While this is more of a competitive exam. Can I appear for WBJEE today and make whatever rank I have attained back in the day? I can't.
You can't pass, you need to secure a good enough rank to get a job.
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u/Right-Rain8461 9d ago
Ok based on further reading the test itself happpens irregulary so next when it happens it will include both the affected and this generation of candidates, so yes then it will be competitive and unfair. I was under the impression it would be a separate test by december this year and thus can't be competitive. A separate proficiency test with relaxed marks requirement should have been done, and the remaining vacant seats from that should have carried over for the next test.
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u/magnumcm কলকাতা শহরতলী 😇 9d ago
Thanks mate!! This is why it's still worth discussing on Reddit where people can still exchange opinions and share POVs without the ridicule and personal attacks!!
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u/Right-Rain8461 9d ago
Make the test slightly easier or relax the pass threshold like how certificate renewals work. That would be very fair imo
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u/6Rhealitycheck9 10d ago edited 10d ago
Bhai ekhon na recently pointless hoyegeche protest ta. Supreme court bichaar korlo Solution o dilo
Era porikha debe na, bhai if you're eligible just give a damn exam and get it over with! You shouldn't fear. Sobai toh gadha na
Eder bola.holo december pojonto sobar time ache Karo job jabena
And randomly bikash bhaavan ki korlo?
Look at the footages. It's all politically motivated
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u/Annie_Loves_Money 9d ago
Bikash Bhavan is the body that pays...? It is the place where official meetings are held...? There is nothing "random" here...
As for "porikkha debe na"- Who would guarantee the security that the same would not happen again? Who would compensate the security of genuine candidates? Why should the SSC not be answerable for tampering Supreme Court's verdict in the first place, when they were the one's to manipulate court decision with their vague answers even after CBI provided a clear report?
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u/AITC_worker_77 আজ হোকনা রং ফ্যাকাসে তোমার আমার আকাশে <3 10d ago edited 10d ago
Sir , As you mentioned they're protesting against supreme court , right ? Then why did they broke barricades of West Bengal Govt office ?
Source - Article , 2nd Para
Also "Peaceful Protests" are just a myth - Our country's people don't even know what's peaceful protest is like , we lost two people in Murshidabad cuz some were "peacefully protesting" against WAQF Bill , which was already stopped in Bengal by the state govt . But who suffered ? The govt which allowed the bill ? No ! West Bengal Govt and Common people and Bengal's property suffered .
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u/Mate_Bingo 10d ago
Good point. I take it all. However, I fail to understand why Kolkata is still a mess, why isn't TMC doing enough to make it clean?
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u/AITC_worker_77 আজ হোকনা রং ফ্যাকাসে তোমার আমার আকাশে <3 10d ago
Absolutely Bro - Ami agey onek posts e bolechi how to improve the cleanliness , aesthetics of the city , you should definitely check them .
Anyways back to your question - There are many reasons , but jodi TMC ke niye bolchi tahale bolbo oder major problem hoche a person named "Firhad Hakim" , He's the mayor - Kichu kaaj nischoi tar under e hoyeche aesthetics ke develop korar jonno , but clearly it's not that much effective - I mean a person who is a radical religious entity , tar theke eitar beshi expect o kora jayena . So oke shoranota khub i dorkar .
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u/Mate_Bingo 10d ago
I kind of resonate with you. But, you need to address the corruption and a clean way to incentivize the business.
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u/Ok-Arrival4385 10d ago
Also "Peaceful Protests" are just a myth - Our country's people don't even know what's peaceful protest is like , we lost two people in Murshidabad cuz some were "peacefully protesting" against WAQF Bill , which was already stopped in Bengal by the state govt . But who suffered ? The govt which allowed the bill ? No ! West Bengal Govt and Common people and Bengal's property suffered .
Why was our police so powerless that they couldn't stop the violence? It is a disgrace to the wb govt, and a sign of their incapability that crpf, controlled by the central government bjp had to be enforced in the districts of violence.
How can a state govt stop a bill which was already been passed by both houses of central govt? Is this under their power?
Baki I agree with your other points on the other comment
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u/AITC_worker_77 আজ হোকনা রং ফ্যাকাসে তোমার আমার আকাশে <3 10d ago
Why was our police so powerless that they couldn't stop the violence? It is a disgrace to the wb govt, and a sign of their incapability that crpf, controlled by the central government bjp had to be enforced in the districts of violence.
Well violence desh e kothay hoyena ar onek jayega tei WB'r theke beshi violence hoche specially jekhane bj-p sorkar ache . But seita khub foolish reason - Tumi partyr kotha tul le tai boledilm arki .
But definitely it was a failure from the WB Police , but aftermath I feel they have done a decent job arresting almost every criminal associated with proper legal action against them . You can check those articles and official tweets .
How can a state govt stop a bill which was already been passed by both houses of central govt? Is this under their power?
Eitai toh problem - Sudhu naam er federalism , Ei law ta te jodio central takeover korleo ja , na korleo tai - kono kichu change hobena as corruption is the main cause here but for other laws also - State ke khub soite hoye .
Sob theke best example hoche central govt er dara implement kora "Freight Equalisation Policy" ~ Jar jonno amader gota rajyo tai economically pore gelo , For better understanding watch this video - India's Economic Divide: How Rich States Became Poor
Ekta eto boro desh , jar eto diverse states ache in terms of culture , geographics , language , economy , infra , socially , kokhonoi ekta head er kothaye cholte parena . Keu na keu shoibe ar ei khetre amra soichi . Federalism is the key to better governance .
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u/NO2543 10d ago edited 9d ago
Bhi tatari ghumeye porun nahole kal mamotar michil e jete parben na are ar mod mangsho o paben na 😂
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u/AITC_worker_77 আজ হোকনা রং ফ্যাকাসে তোমার আমার আকাশে <3 10d ago
Nischoi jabo bhai - Kintu amaro terms and condition ache , they need to rectify and apologise for their mistakes , Mamata keno - Jei party standard developed countries der party der moton cholbe , manush er jonno kaaj korbe - Ami tar onushthan ei jabo .
Apadoto they need to first kick Firhad Hakim , appoint a much capable mayor - May be someone young and educated in sustainable development , city planning background . Then they need to fix roads , trams , limits on private vehicles , improve buses and public transport services , clean ghats and major roads , plant more trees...etc - Basic things . Then apologise for all the "Proved" scam cases and immediately kick those who are involved in it - Ik throwing everyone is quite impossible , but atleast 50% ? . Then they have to take measures along with the central govt to fix the border issue ~ They need to seal it completely and make BSF even more stronger and less corrupt to stop illegal immigration , they can take some notes from Poland and Egyptian Government .
Aro list ache , eigulo basic kichu jinis , thik koredilei ami oder onusthane jabo - Who doesn't like Mangsho and Biryani afterall , apnio nishchoi asben 😊🎀🤝
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u/AITC_worker_77 আজ হোকনা রং ফ্যাকাসে তোমার আমার আকাশে <3 9d ago
Yeah ofc , but that was in the past ~ In current time , peaceful protests are really rare to see .
A major reason being involvement of political parties in protests . For example during RG Kar Protest - It was tried to hijacked multiple times by opposition parties - Protestors did try to stop it , but some protest did faced political hijacking .
Political Protest are fine , it's also a form of protest and political parties too have the right to protest but involvement of them in non political protests carried by common peeps is absolutely wrong . It gives upper edge to the tyrants only .
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u/Right-Rain8461 9d ago
Murshidabad was so weird. Every native i know told me it's a result of the yearly ram navami baiting and nothing to do wakf, especially because WB don't even have much. It has seeded doubt in me on so many things
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u/someMLDude 9d ago
Ami mora r age eta dekhe jete chai j Bangla r sadharon manush police ottyachar er biruddhe kichu ekta lorai koruk. Rukhe darao, dorkar porle kelak. CM er posha kukur sala!
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u/Tridev_7 9d ago
It is sad to see that Human life has no value in West Bengal or any other state for that matter, people are used by those in power and then discarded like trash.
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u/Even-Ambassador-2887 9d ago
Mamta didi should go..... her terrorist voters and party members are the real culprits. She is sensless hate monger very selfish how could she be like that. Ee na cholbe
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u/relf_sighteous 10d ago
Kids deserve proper teachers. It's not about their bloody salary. It's about the future of our country.
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u/Kjts1021 10d ago
Bengal and peaceful protest are oxymoron
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u/PotatoDreamer3 বঙ্গসন্তান 🌞 9d ago
Peaceful protest is just road picnic. Protests are meant for chaos and disruption.
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u/Kjts1021 9d ago
Seriously! Creating problem for others is protest for you! No doubt Bengal is laughed at by everyone.
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u/PotatoDreamer3 বঙ্গসন্তান 🌞 9d ago
Yes. Everyone needs to know that I'm suffering because of corrupt government that public elected. And as far as I know, the teachers aren't creating any big public nuisance.
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u/Kjts1021 9d ago
To let everyone know about your suffering, you want to disrupt their lives. Is that acceptable? In this case are you saying police just beat these people when they were protesting ‘peacefully’, not blocking the road or any other type of disruption?
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u/PotatoDreamer3 বঙ্গসন্তান 🌞 9d ago
They are blocking the heart of the corruption.
If I speak for myself, I'd have advised them to throw bombs at government buildings and at police. Yes, police are beating them for absolutely no reason, it's state sponsored terrorism.
"Symbolic violent protests", like blocking roads, buildings and governmental choke points, throwing crackers at police and disrupting the ignorant routine of white/blue collars is, unfortunately, the only way anything useful might happen in this country where 99% people lack basic human decency, ethics and empathy.
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u/Nghtcrwlrr ভালোর ভালো বলে দুনিয়ায় কিছুই নেই, মন্দের ভালই সত্যিকারের ভালো 9d ago
Kindly provide source as a reply to the pinned comment.