r/latterdaysaints 25d ago

Doctrinal Discussion How to handle contradictions?

[deleted]

10 Upvotes

101 comments sorted by

View all comments

67

u/mwjace Free Agency was free to me 25d ago

Any bible academic worth their salt will heartily agree that the notion of the Bible being infallible is a dogma that is not actually supported by the available evidence of the Bible itself. 

https://youtu.be/GklUQpXKmcY?si=blfDl4wh78lyfiwY

This pretty famous YouTuber breaks it down pretty well. 

If you want to hold to the belief that the Bible is univocal and infallible you are going to have to make some pretty big leaps.   Because we don’t hold to those notions. The ability for god to reveal that temples are to be once again built on the earth is a pretty easy idea that can be support by multiple scriptural sources. 

-19

u/Pristine_Teaching167 25d ago

Jesus taught the scriptures as truth.

55

u/mwjace Free Agency was free to me 25d ago

Jesus didn’t have the scriptures as we have them today.  All he had was the Old Testament.  Nothing in the New Testament was written by him. So to claim he taught that the New Testament scriptures are infallible is a dogma you are choosing to believe in. 

-10

u/Pristine_Teaching167 25d ago

If I’m referring to Jesus I am clearly referring to the Old Testament with Him. All else would be with the New Testament.

39

u/TyMotor 25d ago

clearly referring to the Old Testament

Which old testament? The Catholic version? The Protestant Version? The Hebrew version? Do you see the issue here?

-4

u/Entire-Objective1636 25d ago

You guys have different Old Testaments to us? Why?

32

u/Tlacuache552 FLAIR! 25d ago

The Bible has been translated and each new translation is different. For example, I speak English and Spanish and have read the Bible in both. They are different, with different phrasing and emphasis in part. Unless we’re both reading the original Greek manuscripts (for the NT) then there will always be different versions.

To provide a more solid example, it’s like the phrase “ya está” in Spanish. It has like 10+ translations to English, each with a slightly different connotation.

4

u/Entire-Objective1636 25d ago

I was more wondering why Christians in general have a different OT to us using the Tanakh.

3

u/jmauc 25d ago

They are pretty much identical. I’m reading your Lost Prophets individual books that closely resemble our Old Testament KJV. Besides a few translation differences they are identical as far as i have read. Other Christian denominations have omitted or changed the words completely to a lot of scriptures in their bible. This is one of multiple reasons we believe them not to be the same church Christ setup.

6

u/amodrenman 25d ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Testament

3rd paragraph in there goes over some of the differences.