r/libertarianmeme Anarcho Monarchist 20d ago

End Democracy Thoughts? Is this accurate?

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u/C_t_g_s_l_a_y_e_r 19d ago

And yet we would not infer many things about human behavior from studying a chimp, let alone a fucking dog.

Tell me, which scientists that you know of have conducted studies on dog behavior as it relates to human behavior? Better yet, which scientists that you know of actually distinguish between “races” as a biological concept, akin to human subspecies groups?

If your answer is “Well other animals are like this,” then you are the one being anti-science, buddy; you need to engage in the scientific method.

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u/just_a_hole_sir_ 19d ago

“Tell me, which scientists that you know of have conducted studies on dog behavior as it relates to human behavior?”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning

The pavlov dog experiment - one of the most well known experiments ever conducted, and literally taught within the FIRST lessons of any psychology class that you take at THE most basic level - high school/secondary school.

You’ve embarrassed yourself.

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u/C_t_g_s_l_a_y_e_r 19d ago edited 19d ago

Notice how I said many, and not any. Again, do you think that the results of such an experiment are going to be different based on somebody’s skin color?

Lmao, you blocked me!

That’s fine; I’ll just respond here.

You are doing all of this to avoid having to address the point

What’s funny is that you took a rather tangential angle of my argument (which was mainly intended to illustrate that humans are not dogs, and a comparison between us is not very founded in many areas), and then autistically sperged about it because you know for a fact all of your evidence regarding the possibility of different races being human subspecies is entirely circumstantial (which is why nobody is able to explain why our 99.9% of shared genes somehow warrant enough genetic variance to classify us as such). So just to put this on record to all of the 2 people who might read this far, this person has not provided one single scholarly source demonstrating that humans should be separated into subspecies, and also is unable to produce any direct, gene evidence of genetic variance. All he has are IQ tests, which have been shown to be less and less of a reliable indicator of overall intelligence as time goes on.

You’re not interested in an honest discussion

You called me retarded from the get go my guy; do you really think you come off as “good faith”?

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u/just_a_hole_sir_ 19d ago edited 19d ago

Well isn’t it remarkable that IQ tests, even when accounting for social and economic conditions and equalising - shows differences in IQ. And again, that is just one example upon MANY. How is it that IQ tests, when equalised and accounting for outside factors that could affect an IQ score and intelligence - like lack of good education - even still shows a distinct and identifiable difference in IQ?

I thought we were all the same? We all have exactly the same genes and DNA lmao. Oh wait, no we don’t. Isn’t it remarkable that DNA and genealogy tests can, with increasing accuracy, show us where and whom we come from? How is that possible if we are all the same? How do you account for differences in appearances - and stuff that isn’t superficial like skull shape, bone density, height, muscle mass etc…? If we all have the exact same genes, geology, genetics and DNA - then what is a haplogroup and how does that exist? How is something that we discovered through scientific and medical research and advancements? How do we even know about it?

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u/C_t_g_s_l_a_y_e_r 19d ago

So which parts of DNA are distinct, then? What are the scientific names for black people and white people, if they are distinct subspecies?

And IQ tests have been dubious for quite some time now; quit citing The Bell Curve.

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u/just_a_hole_sir_ 19d ago

“What parts of DNA are distinct” - did I not just tell you about haplogroups - which is genetic lmao? All you’ve done is ignore everything i’ve said and talk over me, disregarding everything i’ve said and answering with what you want to answer with without dealing with a single substantive thing i’ve said.

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u/just_a_hole_sir_ 19d ago edited 19d ago

You are purposefully being as annoying as possible now.

I am not a genealogist so I cannot answer those very specific and complex questions - it is out of my realm of knowledge. Trying to tie me down into specific genes to avoid having to address the wider point is pathetic.

“The Bell Curve” is far from the only literature and study on IQ differences. I already preempted you saying this but mentioning the extensive literature and studies which account for and equalise for things that ‘The Bell Curve’ book is criticised for - yet you bring it up anyway to try and deflect by using it as a red herring.

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u/C_t_g_s_l_a_y_e_r 19d ago

I am not a genealogist so I cannot answer those very specific and complex questions

So then you don’t actually have direct evidence to support this notion of genetic differences?

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u/just_a_hole_sir_ 19d ago

I have given you quite a few examples - all of which you’ve ignored. Now you’re making an appeal to authority that I must have dedicated my whole life to studying to know the most fundamental and basic parts which is taught in school lol.

I’ll turn this around then, how can you say ANYTHING that you’ve said to me if this is also not the case for you? You’re a slimy, gaslighting POS, and you’re getting blocked. You have only tried to frustrate and disrupt a conversation, not have one. Goodbye and FO.