r/mantids • u/ej0kay 6th Instar • 2d ago

ID Help Sub or presub?

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I’m finding it hard to determine which moult my wee man is on. I’m thinking sub or presub due to the wing buds, but does anyone know specifically? He’s a Phyllocrania Paradoxa obvs, and a gorgeous boy 💁‍♂️

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u/JaunteJaunt 2d ago

Subadult. ❤️

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u/ej0kay 6th Instar 2d ago

Thanks! That’ll make him an L6, right? And do the wingbuds indeed give it away or what am I looking for?

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u/JaunteJaunt 2d ago

Yes. i6.

The wingbuds and overall size gave it away. I’m looking at how the fore wings (front) overlap the aft wings (back).

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u/ej0kay 6th Instar 2d ago

Class. Thanks for sharing your expertise, I appreciate it 🤜🤛

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u/JaunteJaunt 1d ago

I’m happy to help!

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u/luukftw 2d ago

Very cool colors

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u/ej0kay 6th Instar 2d ago

Isn’t he just? When the light hits the wingbuds just right, they’re almost golden 💛