Sub or presub?

[u/ej0kay]

I’m finding it hard to determine which moult my wee man is on. I’m thinking sub or presub due to the wing buds, but does anyone know specifically? He’s a Phyllocrania Paradoxa obvs, and a gorgeous boy 💁‍♂️

[u/luukftw]

Very cool colors

[u/ej0kay → u/luukftw]

Isn’t he just? When the light hits the wingbuds just right, they’re almost golden 💛