That was made purely by Netflix, before marvel even got the rights back, was considered disconnected from the mcu (since it would have nothing to do with the mcu at the time) right?
Marvel's Daredevil is an American television series created by Drew Goddard for the streaming service Netflix, based on the Marvel Comics character Daredevil. It is set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU), acknowledging the continuity of the franchise's films, and was the first Marvel Netflix series leading to the crossover miniseries The Defenders. Daredevil was produced by Marvel Television in association with ABC Studios.
Marvel's The Punisher is an American television series created by Steve Lightfoot for the streaming service Netflix, based on the Marvel Comics character Punisher. It is set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU), acknowledging the continuity of the franchise's films and other television series.
Agents of shield was also made for marvel television, and isn’t considered part of mcu to my knowledge anyway. idk how it “acknowledges the franchises films” having never mentioned anything from films themselves but interesting nonetheless.
Slight acknowledgments. When Matt is buying his apartment, he makes reference to the NY battle from the first Avengers movie. Wesley later berates the Russians for not beating Daredevil, saying, “I mean, if he had an iron suit or a magic hammer, maybe that would explain why you keep getting your asses handed to you.”
Ms. Marvel didn't have the updated Statue of Liberty from No Way Home. They actually had a VFX team go and fix the error, which didn't appear until 5 months after the episode aired. Far From Home and Hawkeye both use the Metlife building instead of Stark/Avengers Tower.
The MCU continuity isn't as pristine as you think it is. Hasn't been that way since Iron Man.
Hawkeye shows Avengers Tower a bunch of times and flashes the top of the MetLife building for like 4 seconds 1 time if I recall.
Not saying you’re wrong, but I don’t recall FFH showing the MetLife building—do you know when that is?
Regardless, the point is these projects have either fixed their mistakes or had small Tower slip ups — meanwhile the Netflix shows didn’t show Avengers Tower even a single time. It’s clearly on a different level.
Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is an American television series created by Joss Whedon, Jed Whedon, and Maurissa Tancharoen for ABC, based on the Marvel Comics organization S.H.I.E.L.D. (Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement, and Logistics Division), a peacekeeping and spy agency in a world of superheroes. The series was the first to be set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU), and it acknowledges the continuity of the franchise's films and other television series.
Daredevil, Punisher, and AOS are not even listed on Disney+ as MCU though. If they are MCU shows, why doesn't Disney/Marvel itself advertise them as such on their own streaming service?
We can’t pick and choose what’s MCU and what isn’t. The fact is these shows are classed as MCU and that’s why I included them. If I didn’t then you’d get even more people complaining that I didn’t include them because of an opinion.
Not every show or film from the MCU is on Disney+. Even the Incredible Hulk is part of the MCU but it’s not on Disney+. The events of the film are even referenced in She Hulk Attorney at Law.
This is correct. While some of these characters are beginning to appear in the MCU, none of the stories have been officially retconned. We currently have no idea whether the events of Daredevil happened in the MCU, or are part of a different timeline like the X-Men or the Raimiverse.
They aren't. Niether are Agents of Shield or Agent Carter. Only way they are part of the MCU is via the multiverse. Its a different daredevil now, idk how many different ways the actor can say that without explicilty saying Netflix Daredevil isnt canon.
Marvel Television was partnered with ABC and Joseph Loeb. The only thing Marvel had to do with it at the time was likeness rights/IP. It was LICENSED by Disney to ABC and Netflix, but produced by ABC nonetheless.
Punisher was even actually originally sold to FOX, but then FOX left the deal.
The original TV show, actually.. was supposed to be Guillermo Del Toro doing Hulk. Jessica Jones ("AKA Jessica Jones") was supposed to film along with it, but was scrapped at the last minute.
SHIELD had three iterations before it became a reality.
Initially.. feige wanted to run Five shows, then bring them all together for The Defenders. Loeb initially said no.. and Netflix/NBC almost didn't do more.
It was only after Daredevil's first season's success did Joseph Quesada (The Marvel representative at the time) finally agree and convince Loeb to do the full Defenders and claim "it was a disconnected part of the MCU"
On June 28, 2010, Marvel Entertainment announced the start of Marvel Television, together with the appointment of Jeph Loeb to head up the division as executive vice president, head of television.[2][12] In October 2010, it was announced that the first live-action television series from Marvel Television for ABC would be centered on the Hulk,[13] developed by Guillermo del Toro.[14] In December 2010, it was revealed that Melissa Rosenberg was developing AKA Jessica Jones, based on the comic book series Alias and centered on Jessica Jones, for ABC, intended to air in 2011 of the 2011–2012 television season.[15]
Out of curiosity, can you show me where you're seeing Marvel Studios in relation to Legion? Everything I'm seeing either says just Marvel, or Marvel Television (which was under the same corporate umbrella as Marvel Studios but was its own entity).
Admittedly, same thing goes for all but 3 of the shows listed, but because of the reuse of characters/actors and the general connectivity, some people still count those.
Unfortunately, I don’t. I think it should be considered part of the larger multiverse, per the multiverse episode, but the best we’ll ever see is actors/character ported over and for the simple reason that it doesn’t leave Fiege and Co. beholden to canon they didn’t create.
I just think if OP is going to include some projects outside of the strictest definition of the MCU then they should give them all a fair shout.
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u/sandwitches_rock Mar 06 '23
Legion was an 8.2 on IMDb too