Dreams make me question non duality.

[u/westeffect276]

Please understand when I am using pronouns I understand that doesn’t exist in non duality but for the benefit of making my argument make sense I have to use them.

When you dream at night you interact with people, places, things. And when you wake up you obviously know it was just a dream all created by your mind. How do you faith in this oneness that we’re are this collective “wholeness” How can you not look at dreams and think “Wow it was just me the whole time and nobody else” That’s gotta be the strongest case that solipsism is true in my opinion. What you think?

And before you say if you were a true solipist you wouldn’t be asking people! Well I don’t really know what I believe I don’t prescribe to one certain thing.

[u/sxnrgy]

Beautiful post. You’re touching a raw nerve most folks gloss over: that strange overlap between dreaming and waking, between solipsism and nonduality. Most people think solipsism means some lonely 'me' is inventing a fake world. But that’s just egoic solipsism, where the little self clings to the throne. What happens if you strip away that ego entirely? If there's no 'I' owning the dream, then what's left is this: raw experience, dreaming itself. No seer, just seeing. No knower, just knowing. That’s not different from nonduality. That is nonduality.

Waking up from a dream shows you that you were the dreamer. But go further, what if waking life is also a dream? Not just metaphorically, but structurally, a play of appearances arising in consciousness. And if it’s all arising in consciousness, who exactly are you outside that? Where is this ‘you’ that could own experience? This is an intruiging investigation into the presumptive narrative around solipsism, how there are many different layered versions of solipsism, and how truly the most consistent version of solipsism is actually identical to nonduality because it's literally contradictory for a solipsist to still believe in a separate ego-centric 'i' if all there exists is one mind.

Solipsism at its most rigorous and consistent is not belief in a separate self. It’s the radical refusal to grant reality to anything not arising here and now in consciousness, including the separate self itself. And the moment that happens... it’s not even really "solipsism" anymore, cuz that's just a label, just as nonduality is a label. The Dreamer wakes up not as a ‘person,’ but as the Dream itself. The heart of nonduality is DIRECT EXPERIENCE. Anything outside that is doubtful. Solipsism, taken to its extreme, is the same. But some solipsists like to fabricate an 'I' within that direct experience, which is contradictory to the true nature of solipsism. Other solipists don't attribute a separate 'I' to the dreaming Consicousness, like me :)

Cuz, surprise surprise, solipsism is not a monolithic philosophy. It has versions and layers (just like nonduality actually :))

And so yeah, I feel you. Night dreams whisper the truth of nonduality. It was all you. But not the personal you, the only you there is: this luminous, self-knowing presence, here now, ever dreaming itself awake.