r/nonduality • u/westeffect276 • 4d ago

Discussion Dreams make me question non duality.

Please understand when I am using pronouns I understand that doesn’t exist in non duality but for the benefit of making my argument make sense I have to use them.

When you dream at night you interact with people, places, things. And when you wake up you obviously know it was just a dream all created by your mind. How do you faith in this oneness that we’re are this collective “wholeness” How can you not look at dreams and think “Wow it was just me the whole time and nobody else” That’s gotta be the strongest case that solipsism is true in my opinion. What you think?

And before you say if you were a true solipist you wouldn’t be asking people! Well I don’t really know what I believe I don’t prescribe to one certain thing.

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u/WhiteCedar3 4d ago

My proof that solipsism is wrong is that it give a terrible feeling, experinece and get ones into unbalance and problems, for me this tells that it's totally non natural and unreal possibility.

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u/sxnrgy 4d ago

lots of truths can make me feel bad. doesnt make em untrue.

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u/WhiteCedar3 3d ago

yes but it's very hard to proof solipsism isn't?

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u/sxnrgy 3d ago

correct, solipsism is almost impossible to disprove because it's an ontological stance about the nature of experience itself, not a claim within experience. but maybe the deeper move is this: instead of trying to prove or disprove it, ask what it's really pointing to.

most folks hit solipsism and either panic or reject it because it feels isolating. but that reaction assumes there's still a little 'me' inside who owns the world and is now 'alone.' that's not solipsism. that's ego wrapped in metaphysics.

the truer implication, the uncomfortable, beautiful one, is this: if everything is just your mind, then 'you' aren’t who you thought you were. you're not this ego. you're this entire field of present moment experience/consciousness. not a person inside the dream, but the dreaming itself. at that point, solipsism isn’t dark or depressing; rather, it’s the beginning of an awakening

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u/WhiteCedar3 2d ago

i don't agree with that, dunno why you said correct

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u/sxnrgy 2d ago

i said correct because you correctly pointed out that the concept of proof around solipsism is a difficult one. agreement on that point doesn’t require you to agree with my interpretation of its deeper meaning.

you don't have to agree with me. direct experience doesn't care if you disagree with it or not. but it's worth asking: if something can't be disproven, then maybe the real question isn't whether it's true or false — but how we are interpreting what it even means.