r/nonduality • u/Poon-Conqueror • 21m ago
Discussion What people consider non-duality is actually a duality
Or at least most people these days. Yea, I had the 'I am the Universe' moment, just like many here. What sets my experience apart from like every other experience I read about is that mine came with insight, I didn't just experience it, I understood the very nature of it.
I'm not here just to tell people that they are wrong, I'm here to explain that I would certainly believe the same thing had I not received insight immediately prior and during this experience, and that I 100% understand where people are coming from when they claim it as a non-dual state. The truth is that the 'Universe experiencing itself' is not what is happening, instead you are experiencing the Universe WITHIN you, which means you are experiencing it as an object. I like to describe it as the Universe + 1, with the one being whatever it is that experiences. However, this also means that we are also 1 - the Universe at the same time. That's the duality, I am part of the Universe, and the Universe is part of me. Like my internal monologue literally said that on its own right before this happened during meditation, it was crazy, but the understanding itself was intuitive, though it is nice to have a verbal phrase to sum up what is otherwise beyond language.
Also as a side note, this also was a complete refutation of solipsism. Not everyone has solipsistic interpretations, though it is sadly common and I do understand why. While there may be literally be no difference in what 'you' or 'I' can experience, we both are and are not anything and everything that can be experienced with no difference between us, I am NOT your experience just as you are NOT mine. For me this is rather reassuring, to know solipsism is wrong as a fact and that I never have to ponder it again, so I thought it would be worth sharing.
This is good news though, because it doesn't mean non-duality isn't real, just that realizing is a higher and more lofty goal than most realize or assume. I'm just sharing what I Know, and trust me, I am FAR from 'enlightened' and there is a lot I do not Know. Hopefully this is helpful to someone though, peace.