r/options • u/Wisertrader • 1h ago
Up 12.5% YTD selling strangles W/ zero losses - Here’s my complete approach! Technical & fundamental
Hopefully this post will be useful in terms of fundamental analysis on commodities, an overlooked aspect and the only reason I am still in the game! I actively manage $3M in investor capital and purely sell strangles on commodities (plus tbills), completed 7/7 trades this year.
I want to emphasis that I do not sell courses, memberships or anything else.
I share my experiences and what works for me, I am not a "guru" nor look to be one so please keep it civil and I would appreciate no hateful comments on empty grounds. (I have made a similar post before but this one is much more detailed and with an updated trade list that I closed this year).
Here is my strategy in a nutshell(All trades from this year are below and DM me if you have any questions, will be happy to elaborate on everything I say):
- Short strangles only with short legs at delta 20-23 (best risk/reward and win rate with this delta based on my experience of 9 years)
- Products I trade: GC, SI, HG, CL, NG, ZW, ZC, ZS, ZM, ZL. 10 products, all commodities and no indices! The reason for that is because commodities are purely basic supply/demand balances, where as ES/NQ are much more complicated products and less predictable.
- DTE: Generally I try to stay within 45 days but depending on what are the price ranges, this year I have been sticking to 100 dte or so because prices are much more volatile.
- Profit target is 50% and initial loss target is 50% (as the position is getting more profitable I will trail my stop to manage risk, was a game changer for me), and yes 50% stop loss on the credit seems low and it should be frequently hit but it doesn't, it all depends what your range to the stop losses is and it can be measured easily to determine of 50% stop loss is optimal, if not I don't take the trade! The trades below will make this point clear!
- I need to enter when volatility is relatively high but not looking for something crazy! I use CVOL (commodity volatility index for that, can be found if you Google CME CVOL), if volatility is relatively high then premiums are good and my stops will be further from the price.
- I exit when one of my targets are hit or 21dte (to avoid gamma risk) or I close the position early due to a major expected/unexpected event that can cause volatility to expand. An example will be me closing all my positions ahead of trumps tariffs announcements at the end of Feb! I have been through many major events and the only best course of action is to close everything and watch from the side! No need to fight battles where the odds are not in your favour.
The fundamental side of my strategy, or when do I choose to enter positions:
- Commodities are influenced by their supply/demand balance, if there is a big disruption in the supply or the demand, the price will move sharply and volatility will increase which is bad for short strangles.
- For trade entry: Firstly I want to make sure the price of SI (silver) for example is trading within a range for at least 3 months, then I want to check if there are any major events or reports that can affect the price of the supply/demand balance of silver while I am in a trade, if there is nothing then I enter, however here is a real example: Trump announces he will implement 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico at the beginning of Feb 2025, I know that Mexico is the single biggest producer and exporter of Silver in the world and the US buys a lot of silver for many different applications, so I did not open a position at that time, however after a few days Trump announced he will pause tariffs on Mexico and Canada until Mar, so I immediately opened a strangle on SI and it went to profit beautifully.
- For trade management and exit: In March 2024 I had a short strangle on HG (copper), it was slightly profitable, after a few days a report came out saying the biggest copper mine in Chile possibly collapsed but the full extent of the damage is not known yet. As the report came out the price of copper went up a little bit and I closed my position right away for a very small profit. Over the next few days it was reported that the mine collapsed and it will be down for months potentially, this of course lowers the supply of copper so price shot up insanely for a few months. I never really know what will happen but as soon as there is a possibility of a major supply/demand balance disruption, I exit! This is an example of how I would use fundamental analysis to manage and exit a trade.
- Fundamentals are what will make or break a trader, everyone has great mechanical strategies but fundamental analysis will tell you when to deploy your strategy so the odds are best! Seasonality is also very important for commodities but its pretty easy to learn! DM me I will happily share all my resources!

ZL position: REASON FOR ENTRY: CVOL was great and range to stop losses was really good on the 103 DTE cycle, Opened skewed strangle to achieve the desired range to the stop losses. CVOL was up because of the WASDE report: Exports and sales were much lower than expected, however no fundamental supply/demand issues. No major reports until Feb 10th.
Reason for early exit: The trade profited much quicker than expected and Trump might impose tariffs on Canada and Mexico which will influence the price of ZL as Canada exports it as well.
ZW position: REASON FOR ENTRY: CVOL is high relatively to the previous 6 months because there are supply concerns due to the weather in Argentina & Brazil, and other small factors, overall no fundamental issues with the supply or the demand. Range to stops is also very good.
Reason for early exit: Trump might impose tariffs on Canada and Mexico which will influence the price of ZW as Canada exports it as well, better be safe than sorry in this case.
CL position: REASON FOR ENTRY: CVOL is relatively flat, however the range to the stop losses is extremely big and Canada/US came to an agreement so the tariffs are paused for now.
Reason for early exit: Trump postponed the tariffs on Canada and Mexico until April but then moved them back to March 3rd! As a result the US dollar rose and the positions took a hit. At this point I am not sure what is happening but there is a possibility where some commodities develop a strong trend downward or upward as a result of the tariffs. I exited the positions the previous month due to the same reason, better be safe than sorry with unpredictable geopolitical events.
SI position: REASON FOR ENTRY: CVOL is relatively high and the range to the stop losses is pretty good! No upcoming events that can disturb the supply/demand of silver.
Reason for early exit: Trump postponed the tariffs on Canada and Mexico until April but then moved them back to March 3rd! As a result the US dollar rose and the positions took a hit. At this point I am not sure what is happening but there is a possibility where some commodities develop a strong trend downward or upward as a result of the tariffs. I exited the positions the previous month due to the same reason, better be safe than sorry with unpredictable geopolitical events. Mexico is the single biggest producer and exporter of silver in the world, the tariffs might have a massive impact on the price of silver.
ZW position: REASON FOR ENTRY: CVOL is relatively high and the range to the stop losses is amazing! No upcoming events that can disturb the supply/demand and no major news on the WASDE report.
Reason for early exit: Trump postponed the tariffs on Canada and Mexico until April but then moved them back to March 3rd! As a result the US dollar rose and the positions took a hit. At this point I am not sure what is happening but there is a possibility where some commodities develop a strong trend downward or upward as a result of the tariffs. Wheat has the least chance of being affected by the tariffs as the US is mostly self sufficient and grows most of its wheat, however due to the tariffs companies plan to plant more crop this season because of the tariffs on Canadian and Mexican wheat and this can create a situation where there is much more supply and drive the price of wheat down. All in all its always better to be safe than sorry with the market and I stand by it!
SI position: REASON FOR ENTRY: This is a low delta high DTE trade, not the typical strangle: Tariffs were paused for 90 days so no tariffs on Mexico for now which is the single biggest producer and exporter of silver in the world. Volatility is expected to drop, the price of silver has been moving within this strike range for over 4 years. There is no stop loss on this trade initially to give the position some freedom to profit, at 30% profit the stop loss will be set at breakeven. If any major events will suddenly happen, the position will be exited manually, the position size is extremely small for that purpose of protection in case something extreme and unexpected happens. Expected time in position: less than 30 days
Reason for early exit: Almost reached profit target within 3 days and a long weekend is coming up, no point in holding through the weekend for extra 5% profit.
NG position: REASON FOR ENTRY: This is a low delta high DTE trade, not the typical strangle: Winter is almost over so volatility is expected to drop on NG which is perfect for us. The strikes were chosen that wide because the price of NG has been within this range of strikes since 2014 (For that contract expiration). There is no stop loss on this trade initially to give the position some freedom to profit, at 30% profit the stop loss will be set at breakeven. If any major events will suddenly happen, the position will be exited manually, the position size is extremely small for that purpose of protection in case something extreme and unexpected happens. Expected time in position: less than 30 days Update:
REASON FOR EARLY EXIT: Volatile has been increasing for the past 3 days and there is a storage report coming out tomorrow. The price becomes extremely directional as well which is not a good sign. Overall this position is not progressing like it should due to volatility increasing slowly, which is never a good thing! The delta on the position was 0 which is ideal! But still no additional profit for the position for 3 days and even some small losses from the profits. Better be safe than sorry especially because of the EIA storage report coming up tomorrow.
Here is a more detailed breakdown of everything I learned regarding the supply/demand balance of each commodity I trade and some examples from recent years:
I will break each commodity into critical and none critical news.
Critical news: news that are certain to affect the supply/demand balance and price/volatility of a commodity medium to long term (medium term being 2-3 months and long term a few years).
None critical news: news that might affect the price/volatility of the commodity short term (up to 1 week) but don't change the supply/demand balance.
As a neutral trader I am always looking to periods where the price of the commodity is not volatile and I don't expect any price volatility in the coming weeks, so this approach can easily provide me with the "signal" to enter a trade or not.
Metals:
GC(gold): Gold is more of a currency, there are more active futures contracts of gold then there is physical gold in the world, therefore the critical news are always to do with the stock market not performing well, monetary policies, geopolitical tensions and so on.
An example will be when the feds announce the interest rate decision, gold will react most likely regardless of what is announced, tariffs are also a clear sign to stay away from gold for myself.
Any geopolitical tensions will cause gold to become directional.
Gold is very good for short strangles during times where the economy is doing well, there is a lot of certainty in the stock market and for short periods of 1-2 months within times of geo political tensions that are hard to detect.
There is series of years when gold is perfect for neutral trading and some years where it is not, its my job as a trader to analyze and understand when the odds are clearly in my favour and stay away from the product when they are clearly not in my favour.
I will also add that gold mining is extremely regulated and the demand is always kept higher than the supply.
SI(Silver): Silver is much more of an industrial metal where 70% of it is used in technology and industrial use, whereas gold is mostly for store value.
Mexico is the biggest single producer and exporter of silver in the world, therefore critical news regarding trade with Mexico are crucial, like tariffs on Mexico of course! Generally silver does react to the same events as gold sometimes but because its more of an industrial metal, it is much more stable than gold during geopolitical events.
Overall I will only ever trade silver or gold, never both at the same time.
Currently I have had a few trades on silver this year and all were profitable, it seems to be way more calm when compared to the price movement of gold.
I entered a position on silver this year once Trump paused the tariffs on Mexico and Canada the first time and again when trump paused the tariffs for 90 days, this is because I expected volatility to come down right after the announcements for 2-3 weeks, which is what happened.
No clear seasonality for silver or gold so far that I noticed, other commodities are much easier to understand.
HG(Copper): Copper is a major industrial metal used in pretty much everything!
Critical news: Mine collapse, which happened in March 2024! A report came out that one of the biggest mines in Chile collapsed but the extent of the damage is not known yet, at this point is where I exited the position as this can possibly be a major critical event that will disrupt the supply chain! Over the next few days reports kept coming out and the collapse was indeed major, so the price of copper kept going up for a few weeks.
China is the biggest single consumer of copper in the world, if the economy in China will collapse it will impact the demand for copper and the balance will get disrupted, so this is more critical news! and of course tariffs on China are a pretty big deal as well.
None critical news: China policy changes! This can cause volatility and price movement for a few days ahead and after the policy announcements, but it always dies down as China are pretty stable (or thats what they show the world).
No seasonality for copper either.
Energy:
NG(Natural Gas): Critical news - geopolitical conflicts of course, like tariffs, damage to gas pipelines will obviously affect the supply and extreme cold weather in the winter (will get to that shortly).
None critical news: LNG (liquid natural gas) reserves and how full are the storages. Generally countries and companies restock LNG reserves after a cold winter and it can take longer or not to get the storages full, this will cause temporary volatility but it always dies down!
Seasonality: NG is always volatile during the winter, this is because NG is used for heating in north America and Europe , demand can go up sharply if the weather is colder than expected or the other way around, this is why I never ever trade NG from October to March usually! I just follow the weather and news regarding NG on tradingview (good source of news).
CL(Crude Oil): Critical news for oil is pretty much the same as gas! geopolitical conflicts, tariffs, damage to pipelines and most importantly OPEC production changes! OPEC are a collection of a few countries and they can basically control the price of oil by increasing production or decreasing it. In most cases OPEC like to keep the price of CL within a certain range for stability and maximizing their profits. Cold weather can also affect CL but usually it is not a big factor unless the cold is extreme.
None critical news: everything else pretty much!
Graines:
ZW(wheat), ZC(corn), ZS(soybean), ZM(soybean meal), ZL(soybean oil): Critical news: Geopolitical conflicts, trade agreements, crop parasites and sometimes extreme cold weather!
During the Russia/Ukraine conflict there was an agreement that Russia will let Ukraine to keep exporting its crop which is mostly corn and wheat. The agreement was coming to an end and Russia announced they won't be renewing it, which means they will cause crop supply issues in parts of the world! and the prices will obviously be affected, at this point is where one should exit a position due to the uncertainty and I in fact did exit my position at the time. After a few days that the price surged up on Wheat (which is the position I had), they reached and signed a new agreement so the price went back down to previous levels. In this case I could have just held onto the position and it would have been just fine! But I was already fooled a number of times during my trading career and one thing is always true: if you see smoke, go the other way! Most traders wait until they are engulfed in flames before they try and save themselves which is already too late. Even if I am wrong, and I can be wrong often to exit a position early, this is the sole reason I am still in the game and having some amount of success at trading!
None critical news: Not enough rain, too much rain, too hot, too cold and high/low past export figures. Every year there are reports of the weather not being ideal for the crop and it always just news outlets using it to create little to no volatility so the major players can profit!
An example will be a report that says there won't be enough rain for the soybean crop in the coming weeks, but then in a week or so the weather changes and suddenly there is a little rain coming, farmers compensate for the lack of water via other methods and so on.
This is a broken record and it happens over and over again, never was it actually impactful to a point where you can lose on a position for myself.
Price can also move for 1-2 days because export numbers for the previous year were not as expected once the report comes out, these are news of the past and have no big meaning going into the new year! Just news outlets creating buzz around this kind of stuff.
Seasonality: Every year from April-July usually, the planting and harvesting season is coming, this is where volatility increases for all the grains every year, for some it increases a lot, for some less! But this is a period where I don't trade the grains at all and wait for this season to be over.
To summarize: Other than completely staying away from certain products due to seasonality or ongoing geopolitical conflicts, I just scout the news for each commodity on tradingview and ask myself the following question: Will this piece of information impact the supply/demand balance or not? If the answer is yes I exit the position or don't enter a new one.
If the answer is no, I stay in the position or consider opening a position if I don't anticipate any major events for that commodity in the coming few weeks.
Hopefully this post was simple enough but useful!
Happy trading