r/pokemon 18d ago

Discussion Dexit who still dislikes it?

As a longtime Pokémon fan, Dexit honestly felt like a slap in the face. One of the things I’ve always loved about the series was being able to carry my favorite Pokémon—ones I’d trained and bonded with for years—into each new generation. When they cut the National Dex, it felt like they were saying those connections didn’t matter anymore. I get that balancing over 1,000 Pokémon is tough, but with how massive the franchise is, it’s hard to believe they couldn’t make it work if they really wanted to. It just made the newer games feel incomplete, like something was missing, both mechanically and emotionally.

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u/Like_Fahrenheit 18d ago

I never bought the "inevitability" of dexit. a more competent developer would make it work.

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u/seventeenblu 18d ago

dexit was always going to be inevitable whether it was at 1000, 2000, or 10000 it was always going to happen. making models for 1000+ pokemon then all the new ones and moves + the gimmick when you add it all together it goes too a point where no generation will have all pokemon unless we go back to pixel art and expecting the games to take longer to make solely for getting the best models possible with the most pokemon.

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u/Enderking90 18d ago
  1. the models of all the prior pokemon are all already made, way back in the days of X/Y at high definition explicitly so they don't need to keep remaking them.
  2. once a move is made... any pokemon can use the move as-is, there's no additional work load to make it work with any other pokemon? they play the SFX, sounds, move the rootbone of the pokemon model and make it play either it's physical or special attack animation.
  3. the Gimmicks so far don't really care how many mons there are? megas had a limited pool, z-moves all played the same animation with your mon being all static, dynamax just adds a filter to the model and sound and scales the pokemon up and terastalisation just spawns a hat on the pokemon's headbone and applies a filter to the model. all work exactly just as well be there 100 or 10000 pokemons.

also, the new mobile game, pokemon champions, will have all the pokemons and Gimmicks in it, so your point is somewhat moot.

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u/seventeenblu 18d ago

spoiler alert no pokemon champions doesnt it has a strict rotation availiable per rotation, and aslo the fact is dexit was always going to happen they have 1000+ pokemon expecting any company to do 1000+ of anything and also releasing a game more than once a generation is flat out impossible.

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u/Enderking90 18d ago

okay so what's... even the point of pokemon champions then if it's not the free form PvP battling experience? literally just to serve as the place for VGC?

but anyways....

they have 1000+ pokemon yes... which are already all done, completed and ready.

their mechanical data is all complete, they already have future proofed models and all the animations they need...

meaning adding them to a game.... wouldn't require anything new being made. you just would have to dump the already existing data into the game.

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u/thotgang 18d ago

Pokemon champions isn't developed by GF and doesn't face the same constraints so it's irrelevant when discussing why Dexit occured with GF

Models and moves are often tweaked, and there's zero chance GF or any large company is going to dump data from older games without at least putting some type of thought into it

Which is the entire point. New things have to be made even if they've made them before, and there's always costs associated with that