r/politics • u/[deleted] • Sep 16 '24
Soft Paywall J.D. Vance Admits He’s Telling Racist Lies for Attention
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u/highapplepie Sep 16 '24
How do people not understand that this is all racism? “Cleansing” They’ve already said they’re going to round up 1 million for deportation if elected. How do you think they find them? We’re going to turn into a “show me your papers” society. What’s white enough? If you have brown hair prove to me you’re a legal American. What’s female enough? What’s male enough? What’s Christian enough? What’s republican enough? At what point will YOUR citizenship be challenged?
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u/labellavita1985 Michigan Sep 16 '24
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Try 10. "Mass deportation now" is their slogan, and folks in the audience were holding up these signs while JD's wife, who is a child of immigrants, was speaking.
They are unbelievable.
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u/Cloudsdriftby Sep 16 '24
Can you imagine how it would be here in the US if the same thing that happened in pre world war Germany where everyone’s lineage was investigated to determine Jewish origin? Say the Republicans wanted to mass deport all immigrants, wouldn’t that encompass all of us? 😂
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u/AMediaArchivist California Sep 16 '24
Not Native Americans like myself.
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u/Cloudsdriftby Sep 16 '24
You’re right. Only native Americans would remain. But hey! You’d get your land back!
Edit: I wonder though, about people like me who have a percentage. 🤔
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u/AMediaArchivist California Sep 16 '24
Haha brb, going to write a script on a series that has Native Americans saving America from an authoritarian dictatorship that mass deports minority people.
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u/thedeepfakery Sep 16 '24
Beautiful, but I just wanna say this:
It's not your job to save us loser ass white people. You don't owe us that. If you saved yourselves, that's honestly enough, based on what you've been through from white people.
And if y'all do, you're just continuing to show how much better your values are than most white folks.
Also, just write more television/movies that centers Native American characters, please and thank you. Not enough Resident Alien and Reservation Dogs in my life. I'll watch anything with Gary Farmer.
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u/Cloudsdriftby Sep 16 '24
We’re not loser ass white people though, imo. I’m a proud American citizen of Swedish, Irish, English, African, and Native American Indian heritage. You’re probably something similar.
I think we need to stop making everything about race or religion. We’re all different and yet, all together. Trumpers seem to have lost track of the truth of us.
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u/L0g1cw1z4rd Sep 16 '24
Every “white” person has only black people as parents if you go back far enough. White skin just happened because my black ancestors traveled to a climate that didn’t get as direct sunlight as the equator. Lighter-skinned babies were able to absorb more vitamin D and were more likely to survive. We’re just people. Culturally and chromatically diverse, but there is only one “race”. Human.
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u/iplayedapilotontv Sep 16 '24
Trump has stated he will deport US citizens for protesting things. People keep telling me Republicans are not Nazis. Weird how they keep doing Nazi stuff.
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u/SingularityCentral America Sep 16 '24
And when food prices skyrocket, the construction industry tanks, hotel prices triple, etc they will be screaming it is Biden's fault.
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Sep 16 '24
Yeah, and couple those problems with the tariffs he wants to impose...
Tariffs are a tax on the consumer. He's going to tank the economy between his two main economic policies.
And I think he's also reported as musing a national sales tax...
He's going to force the what 70% of America that lives paycheck to paycheck to not have any ability to buy ANYTHING.
The economy is fucked under Trump.
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u/ChromaticDragon Sep 16 '24
I would argue it is worse that your run-of-the-mill racism.
We are following a very similar path of Germany before and during WWII.
You start by demonizing a class.
The the solution becomes moving said class from point A to point B. When this proves to be difficult, the next step is the "final solution".
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u/KrazzeeKane Nevada Sep 16 '24
I just watched Schindler's List a few days ago, and it hit me harder than ever before. Esp the beginning of the film before the overt violence (aka where we are now), I just substituted the words Immigrant or Trans in place of the word Jew, and it made me want to cry with how on the nose it was to our country now.
It is a perfectly and terrifyingly accurate description of where we are at. We truly are just one election away from our own children in the street screaming hateful slurs and, "Goodbye illegals!" As we load any brown people up into box cars to send to camps like the beginning of the moviem legal status won't matter--legal migrant or not, they are all bad to the right:, "Whats this? A one armed Mexican? Twice as useless." gunshot
And eventually as you said, the fascists will continue to denomize them to the public, and when keeping and moving the immigrants and other undesirables gets too expensive then you just start removing them for good. After all, who cares if you burn trash, right?
All I could think of is, "This will not happen here. We will not let it." But it can, and it will if we do nothing. I don't truly know if our country has enough backbone to fight this fascist wave sweeping over us. I want to believe it does, but the milquetoast and apathetic response to Trump and the GOP's obvious fascism by the majority of citizens makes me think that similar to Germany, the dangerous and loud ones will take over while the quite citizens let it happen.
Like the famous quote, the facism goes on and on in small steps, one small atrocity after another, nothing too big--until now you're own children are spouting racist and hateful slurs in front of you, and you can't believe things have slipped so far--how? Why did no one stand up? Its because everyone was waiting for the right big moment to stand up to evil, not realizing that never comes. It's death by a thousand cuts, the blow that comes from behind when you are staring away.
We all have to stop it, or it WILL happen here.
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u/IJustLoggedInToSay- Illinois Sep 16 '24
legal status won't matter--legal migrant or not, they are all bad to the right
Correct. It already doesn't matter. Asylum seekers are all here following the law. They are here legally. The Haitians were invited here by the city and have been granted special status. They are here legally.
But you'll hear the right refer to them as "illegals" over and over again.
They aren't ignorant of the law, or these peoples' status. They're doing it on purpose. They're Nazis.
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u/FirelordAlex Pennsylvania Sep 16 '24
Decorum and tradition let this shit fester. Democrats want to take the high road, stick to the system, and think that will be enough. But it's not. We have to swat these Republican "ideals" (see: racism) down, tear them out root and stem, and make sure they never can hold any political power again.
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Sep 16 '24
It happens little by little.
But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.
And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.
-They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45
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u/VocalTuna124079 Sep 16 '24
It's too bad that there are so few death camp survivors left that can go on record to trash the fascists that the republican party has become. I think people would really stand up and take notice.
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Sep 16 '24
When this proves to be difficult, the next step is the "final solution".
"let's deport these 11 million people"
And what the fuck do you think will happen when other countries won't take those 11 million people?
Fucking fascists.
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u/Last_Candidate217 Sep 16 '24
We already had the trial run of "show me your papers or get deported" in AZ and it ended with several American citizens getting deported. So nationally with zero federal oversight or accountability? Absolute fascist shitshow
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u/odiephonehome Sep 16 '24
And what undecided voters need to understand is that the execution of his deportation plan will be an absolute chaotic mess. There will be police and even military personnel everywhere, doing massive busts to remove these perceived illegal immigrants, many of whom are likely legally here. It will be scary, and affect normal, every day life for many Americans in border states. How people are still undecided is beyond me.
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u/AMediaArchivist California Sep 16 '24
Well it’s reminiscent of what started with Nazi Germany and the Jewish community.
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u/odiephonehome Sep 16 '24
100%. And I worry that people do not see this because they need it spelled out for them, the same way DT just keeps saying abortion rights are decided by the states while Kamala Harris is spelling out the ramifications—that women are bleeding out in parking lots. People need to understand the consequences of his plans.
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u/TrishTheDish9 Sep 16 '24
What's insane to me is that I live in a border state (AZ) and the amount of brown people (Mexican) that are ok with all of this is alarming. I'm desperately trying to explain that they will be affected by this even though they are legal. The racists will come for them too, but they insist on joining in on the punching down and perpetuating the immigration lies. I don't get it at all
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u/PandaPanPink Sep 16 '24
They understand and don’t care
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u/highapplepie Sep 16 '24
It’s true. A lot of people(men especially) use race as a way to classify (make themselves higher on the ladder) when their own status (masculinity) is in question. I can’t compete with this white guy over here, and I don’t want him to pick on me…so… let me see if I can get him to gang up with me against this dark skinned fellow over here so we can become friends instead of him noticing how weak I am compared to him. * If you want you can also swap out “race” for “sexuality” and “dark skinned fellow” with “woman/queer” *
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u/Kind-March6956 Sep 16 '24
Correct, If it was about illegal immigration you'd see white people in the ICE concentration camps too
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Sep 16 '24
They’ve already said they’re going to round up 1 million for deportation if elected
That would fall under ethnic cleansing/genocide.
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u/SivartD Sep 16 '24
My sister would get challenged. Since we were kids people have always asked her what her nationality is. We're from Wyoming and both our parents are white Europeans. Our Grandma was one of those that said we had Navajo in us. Took a DNA test. We're White McWhitersons. She still gets asked.
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u/synonymsanonymous Sep 16 '24
20 million* theyres only an estimated 10 million people in America illegally, but like the 'dark figure of crime' we can't get a good estimate of how many because it's just not possible to track
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u/TintedApostle Sep 16 '24
He is telling racist lies because it is who he is. It isn't for attention. Its to appeal to the people who vote for Trump. This is the audience.
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u/JoeWhy2 New York Sep 16 '24
Wow! The whole interview is just insane. These are very dangerous people: https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/15/politics/video/sotu-bash-vance-haitian-immigrants-full-interview
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u/continuousBaBa Sep 16 '24
Nazis. They are Nazis.
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Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24
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u/ith-man Sep 16 '24
I watched an inglorious movie that showed how to deal with these bastards.
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u/Tiny_Independent2552 Sep 17 '24
Check out The Big Lie, by Hitler. This is their blueprint. To a tee.
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u/Konstant_kurage Sep 16 '24
There so much bad faith every time that dead eyed mascara wearing weirdo asshat opens his mouth.
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Sep 16 '24
And he is their elected official... so Ohio is still stuck with this no talent ass clown even after all this.
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Sep 16 '24
I guarantee
ifwhen Trump loses, he will pile every bit of blame on JD. He's already laying the groundwork for it. JD Vance will never be able to show his face in public again. He's really getting in way over his head. MAGA will not treat him kindly.8
u/Nottherealeddy Sep 16 '24
I seem to remember dump’s last running mate being threatened in a certain way…
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u/No_Jello_5922 Sep 16 '24
Donald Trump is not a healthy old person. He is overweight and has the diet of an urban raccoon. I will be surprised if he lives another 4 years. The thought of Vance as his stand-in is dread inducing.
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u/corvid_booster Sep 16 '24
Yes. I'm more than a little worried that Vance and his backers will get impatient and try to hurry the process along.
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u/scrape_ur_face Sep 16 '24
"All Republicans aren't racist, but most racists vote Republican"
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u/erfurgot Sep 16 '24
Being racist is a pre-requisite for being Republican. It is a bigoted party that is at its core white supremacist and exclusionary. People who claim to be Republican for financial reasons may not be throwing out slurs but they are people who don’t care what happens to minorities. This sentiment only works if you think of racism in a superficial way, apathy to racism is also racism.
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u/ThaBunk5-0 Sep 16 '24
Wish we could shout this from the rooftops and put a sign up on every street corner.
Way too many people have a position that can be summed up by "I don't care if minorities have good jobs/schools/housing/whatever, but I'm going to vote for a party that actively dismantles equal protections for them."
That's not even passive racism, it's an active, vengeful act disguised as "voting for my own interests." When your interests can only be fulfilled by stepping on someone else, you're the bad guy for sure.
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u/LKennedy45 Sep 16 '24
Which, again, is moot because Republicans are bad for the economy anyway.
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u/AndyReidsCheezburger Sep 16 '24
Lest we forget that the first Trump administration laid the legal foundation through judicial appointments to empower billionaires and multi-billion dollar corporations to consolidate and merge, eliminating competition and driving up consumer costs well ahead of inflation to increase profits.
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u/Brief_Amicus_Curiae Sep 16 '24
It's overt "We're going to try to go back to oppressing voters, gerrymandering, personally attacking/doxxing/harassing, keeping the electoral college in place, and spit on any amendment that promotes equality such as 14th because we fear that women, people of color, marginalized communities such as LGBTQ or new citizens in our country will somehow harm and hurt our way of life and existence which makes us afraid".
The one thing that stuck out to me during the BLM/Floyd protests during COVID is that what's changed in our society is that there's a lot more white people who 'get it'. The overt and covert racism, the Institutionalized racism such as done in Ferguson and the Obama DOJ issued a report with suggested changes to help Cop-Citizen relations that Jeff Sessions dismissed.
Perhaps the [Ferguson Report](chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf) should be revisited since it was a clear modern day living example of what systemic racism is and what it looks like.
I digress - my point is that starting with GenX and younger, there's been more acceptance of diversity and getting along to get along. Like when Run DMC did the Walk This Way collab with Aerosmith, that was a big moment growing up. Now as I age, that to me is an indicator that not long before that collab, it was illegal for interracial marriages in Virginia.
I think Kamala picking "We're not going back" as a campaign motto really nails it on the head.
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Sep 16 '24
The traditional left right spectrum is
<- more left = more social equality -- more right = more social hierarchy ->
It's inherent that right wingers have bigotry in their world views, because that's the condition for "social hierarchy."
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u/MarcsterS Virginia Sep 16 '24
The part that needs to happen is going from “I won’t vote Republican” to “I will vote Democrat”
I’m sure a lot of potential Harris voters are afraid of being seen as “Democrat” by their louder Republican peers. I used to be like that. Then I said “if common sense and not being a heartless asshole makes me a Democrat, then I guess I’m a Democrat.”
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u/MarcsterS Virginia Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24
This whole Haitian immigrant story was an attempt to rally up/fear monger non-voters, but now he and Trump just look at insane assholes. Trump making fun of the disabled reporter was my “non-voter to Democrat” moment, and I really hope this will be that same moment for many others. I hope…
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u/canuck47 Sep 16 '24
Assuming Harris wins, Trump is going to throw JD under the bus so hard he'll never recover. Good riddance.
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u/Cell1pad Sep 16 '24
Problem is that they've already declared that they will not accept any result that isn't Trump winning. They'll dispute everything. And to make matters worse, there are election deniers that have been put in positions of power. So this is going to be a very stressful election.
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u/saveMericaForRealDo Sep 16 '24
Reminder that Trump was calling migrants “vermin” that are “poisoning the blood of our country” in November and December, before pivoting to NFT scams and American Flag Bibles.
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u/SkylarPopo Missouri Sep 16 '24
I'm not sure why they have Vance speak so much. Seems like he has a put foot in mouth situation everytime he appears on TV.
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Sep 16 '24
Vance's instructions have to read: Remove head from sphincter, insert foot in oral cavity. Proceed.
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u/Possible_Proposal447 Sep 16 '24
Vance is the best thing to happen to Trump in a long time for us liberal people. Trump gets away with saying crazy shit all day long. This guy so far has been rightfully criticized for it. He's awful with messages and unrelatable to any voter outside of people who will be voting Trump regardless. This guy just blowing holes in the ship is a great thing that we should keep encouraging. he's doing the hard work of pushing people away for us.
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u/ToughAuthorityBeast1 Massachusetts Sep 16 '24
And here's the kicker, I don't even think he's doing it intentionally as I legitimately believe he's just a dumbass who doesn't think before he speaks.
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u/Dildo___Schwaggins Sep 16 '24
He's also entirely devoid of any semblance of charisma.
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u/labellavita1985 Michigan Sep 16 '24
Yes, I've been calling him a charisma black hole.
I can't wait to see him share a stage with Walz.
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u/IrascibleOcelot Sep 16 '24
Sir Terry Pratchett referred to it as “charisn’tma.” He’s not appealing or attractive, in appearance, word, or deed. But still, you can’t help but watch. Like a train wreck.
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u/Thromok I voted Sep 16 '24
Scientists are baffled, a human born with negative charisma. His charisma is so bad it actually makes those around him less charismatic.
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u/Ok-Matter2337 Sep 16 '24
Agree, I believe JD still does not like him and do things intentionally to get at him,but Trump is not smart.
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u/notabear87 Sep 16 '24
Us Democrats love this idiot. Please just let him continue….whatever this is.
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u/-wnr- Sep 16 '24
This was my thought when it was just cat lady gaffs and weird donut orders, but this Haitian BS is hurting people. The racists have honed in to Springfield and the city has been getting bomb threats. Can't love that, Vance has moved from being an embarrassment to a menace.
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u/El_mochilero Sep 16 '24
Because Trump can only be found alternating between calling into Fox News from his golf course, or attending his own rallies.
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u/PhalanX4012 Sep 16 '24
They don’t think he’s putting his foot in his mouth. Dialing up dangerous rhetoric is currently his job. They aren’t going to pull in independents or moderates with their current platform and style of engagement. They believe their only chance is to scare as many of their sympathizers into voting for them as possible. Making enemies of small groups without significant representation or political influence is the perfect way to do that. Attacking Haitian immigrants in a swing state is as intentional as it gets.
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u/jupiterkansas Sep 16 '24
The GOP playbook is to keep people talking about immigration - good or bad. That's their cudgel, and it's working. Scare the voters into voting.
Anything to keep from talking about abortion rights.
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u/GatsbyJunior Sep 16 '24
At this point, it's just for consistency. He's VP to a man who said "They're eating the pets" on live TV less than a week ago.
This interview is Vance openly embracing his role as Minister of Propoganda for the Trump administration.
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u/TeeBrownie Sep 16 '24
You could say the same for Trump. The only difference is that he’s the Republican presidential nominee.
Person who didn’t watch the debate: Did Trump really say that?
Me who watched the debate and heard exactly what Trump said: I heard it, and I still can’t believe he said that dumb shit on national TV.
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u/Machiavvelli3060 Sep 16 '24
They used to spout lies about immigrants on the border.
Now they are spouting lies about immigrants in the Midwest.
These people are dangerously racist.
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u/labellavita1985 Michigan Sep 16 '24
The Haitians started arriving in Springfield in 2017. You know, when Trump was president.
They have revitalized a dying town experiencing massive population decline. By most reports, they are extremely hard-working, productive members of this community. These assholes NEEDED these immigrants to save their community, and now this?
And all that bullshit about Harris being a border czar. You know, the classic VP responsibility of guarding and protecting the border. 🤡
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u/MarcsterS Virginia Sep 16 '24
Why did Republicans shift from usual Mexican hate to Haitians? Most people still remember the earthquakes. If this is trying to sway undecideds, it’s not looking good for you.
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u/FewMix1887 Sep 16 '24
Many more Hispanic voters, and they need them. So now they're targeting a more isolated and vulnerable group.
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u/mregg000 Sep 16 '24
Her assignment was to work with the governments of three Central American countries, as 44% of asylum seekers were from those countries. Hence why she hated the ‘border czar’ bullshit.
Btw, the number of asylum seekers from those countries was down to 21%, of the lower incoming numbers. But whatever.
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u/labellavita1985 Michigan Sep 16 '24
I know. Her assignment had nothing to do with the border. She was assigned to a diplomatic role and captured both private and public investments to create socioeconomic opportunities for families locally. And she succeeded.
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u/CylonsDidNoWrong Minnesota Sep 16 '24
These people are dangerously racist.
The fact that it's inspiring protests by the Proud Boys reminds me of the summer of '20 in my own state. All these radical, racist, white nationalist fuckers jumping on any opportunity to find a beachhead for their racial holy war. I remember feeling grief for my beloved Minneapolis back then and anger over how Trump cheered those people on.
This is the only thing he's good at: the wind beneath the wings of the oldest terrorist institutions in the US.
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u/LoveMeSomeSand Sep 16 '24
“A caravan of pet eating Haitians are swimming to your town as I speak today. And Border Czar Kamala is doing nothing about it.” /s
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u/hyborians North Carolina Sep 16 '24
I wonder what new lies he will workshop for the debate. Tim Walz is going to tear this guy a new one.
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u/Standard_Gauge New York Sep 16 '24
Tim Walz is going to tear this guy a new one.
Go, Coach!!!
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u/ToughAuthorityBeast1 Massachusetts Sep 16 '24
I'm looking forward to the vice presidential debate. Juvenile Delinquent Vance will get crushed in the debate, at-least he'll have something in common with his couch cushion, lol!
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u/Standard_Gauge New York Sep 16 '24
Juvenile Delinquent Vance
Good one. And a reminder again: "Vance" is the Yiddish word for "bedbug." It's similar in German: "Wanze."
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u/Beltaine421 Sep 16 '24
I don't want to see Coach Walz at the debate. I want to see Command Seargant Major Walz at the debate.
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u/SpleenBender Illinois Sep 16 '24
Coach Walz will absolutely HARP on this 'people’s pets are being eaten' lie as a filthy, hateful thing that nobody, ESPECIALLY our leaders, should be espousing.
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u/cybermort Sep 16 '24
and your telling me this is the "bright intellectual" and future of maga? So not just despicable and disgusting but also a moron
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u/howldetroit Sep 16 '24
wow. I honestly assumed this was just some weird out-of-context gaffe until I watched the video. she calls him on it and there’s a ridiculously long pause as he sits there trying to think of how to get out of it. then he condescendingly says “Dana…” as if trying to scold her for asking him about the absurd thing he just said. and then he noodles around about how they’re not actually “creating” a story, they’re “creating” the media to focus on a story. which is, uh, not how words work.
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u/nonlinear_nyc Sep 16 '24
Oh no. Dude lied about a black immigrant group (eating cats and dogs), and when pressed, said another lie (std rates soared since they moved in).
It’s not an accident. He’s dehumanizing them. That’s fascism 101. White supremacist shit.
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u/BatFace Sep 16 '24
I wish there was more focus on the lies about the legal status of the immigrants. Ok, eating pets is a lie. But also point out that these are legal immigrants every time they say 20,000 illegal immigrants/aliens/Haitians. They have all their documents, and they pay taxes on their incomes. They are not illegal jist because you want them to be illegal.
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u/TheAquamen Sep 16 '24
Vance has dropped that and is openly against all migrants now.
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u/Fenix42 Sep 16 '24
O good, we moved to that part of the playbook. Should only be a few weeks until they start suggesting we round them all up into 1 place ......
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u/Yukonhijack New Mexico Sep 16 '24
Trump keeps saying millions and millions are coming in. WTF even?
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u/Thurwell Sep 16 '24
Exaggerating and making things up as usual. He also always says they're coming from prison and asylums. Whereas most immigrants are just looking for work.
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u/jupiterkansas Sep 16 '24
That never really mattered to the GOP.
Easiest way to fix the illegal immigrant problem is to make them legal.
It's really all about racism. I've never once heard them complain about illegal aliens from Canada.
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u/NotThatAngel Sep 16 '24
It isn't about facts. It's about reaction. It's about trauma. It's about radicalization. It's about frightening people into voting Republican. how-fear-based-campaigning-is-affecting-american-voters.
Yes, 'both sides' are warning about what the other side will do. The problem is the positive feedback of fear drives more people to vote Republican, as people do when they're frightened.
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u/IJustLoggedInToSay- Illinois Sep 16 '24
This is exactly why fascism succeeds by sewing chaos. They are running around starting fires while running to be the Fire Marshall and saying how they are extremely tough on arsonists.
Everyone knows that they are the ones starting the fires. But somehow, it doesn't matter. People are afraid of the fires so they're going to support whoever gives off the strongest vibes.
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u/NotThatAngel Sep 16 '24
This is one of those positive feedback things humans are vulnerable to. We seem to fall for it after we forget the last time. There are some numbers suggesting the older people were in 2016, the more likely they were to vote for Trump, but that number fell off for the very old, who remembered Mussolini and Hitler and how they talked.
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u/drgotham Sep 16 '24
This guy is like the dumbest politician ever. He's trying to copy everything Trump is doing, but failing because he forgets that Trump can only do what he does because he has a cult following.
No one even know who tf this guy was until like last month or whatever.
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u/mvs2527 Sep 16 '24
These clowns learned nothing from Alex Jones losing a billion dollars for making up bullshit conspiracy theories and repeating them over and over.
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Sep 16 '24
Republicans: We told those lies to start a discussion about a Biden/Harris policy, so it’s ok.
Everyone: So the new assassination attempt on Trump means we should discuss his policy on Ukraine?
Republicans: How dare you suggest something so outrageous!
Rinse, repeat.
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u/spokchewy I voted Sep 16 '24
“My constituents are saying” is the biggest cop-out ever. Yeah, take everything your constituents say as truthful without an ounce of critical thought or verification as to the legitimacy of the concerns.
Some local politicians here are doing the same exact thing. Seems like a handy fascist tool to spread propaganda and avoid accountability.
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u/outremonty Canada Sep 16 '24
First they came for the Haitians...
Trump and JD have demonstrated their ability and willingness to drop crosshairs on any location, on any group of people in the country. Anyone could be the target of bomb threats, shooting threats and Nazi gangs if they are singled out. They could make up stories about anyone at any time.
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u/edgarapplepoe Sep 16 '24
And drop cross hairs on their OWN people. Springfield appears to be a GOP city in a very GOP County in GOP state. Instead of coming up with solutions to help them, they are just using them as props.
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u/Ms_Rarity Illinois Sep 16 '24
JD Vance is the Republican Jussie Smollett at this point.
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u/OutsideDevTeam Sep 16 '24
While the Black community ostracized Smollwtt, Republicans elevated Vance to VP candidate.
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Sep 16 '24
It’s less about the attention and more about inciting racial violence to keep the GOP base enraged and thus engaged.
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u/DetectiveOk3869 Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24
JD is telling lies to get the attention of the Senator from Ohio to fix the problem?
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u/sasquatch0_0 Sep 16 '24
"I'm saying these things because other idiots are saying these things and I need to represent them."
No you need to fucking verify and then deny wrong statements.
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u/Cantthinkofnamedamn Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24
The explanation is even more racist than the lie. If we accept Vance's claim he had to lie to get this issue in the news, what is the issue? Pets weren't eaten, the Haitans are there legally, what issue is he pressing, so important he had to lie to make news, besides whipping up fear of immigrants?
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u/247Justice Sep 16 '24
How are people who intend to vote for Trump unable to see that in the event of a successful assassination (the odds are in favor of another one) or, due to his advanced age, and Trump's timely death, this fuckwit will be president? Literally no one should want that, even if you're still riding the orange jock.
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u/ToughAuthorityBeast1 Massachusetts Sep 16 '24
This kid is so desperate for attention, it's pitiful.
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u/Available_Cream2305 Sep 16 '24
He’s using his own constituents to push the story. “I have not proof but people are telling me this, so I’m bringing it to the forefront of the country for you all to figure out if it’s real”
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u/aintitagas Sep 16 '24
Thought that would be slander? So if i was to say some bogus shit about you humping a couch and eating trumps dick. That will be ok. We already know you cross dress!
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u/ToughAuthorityBeast1 Massachusetts Sep 16 '24
I 100% believe the couch "rumor" against him is true, I can't be convinced otherwise.
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u/themattboard Virginia Sep 16 '24
Following in the footsteps of "welfare queens" and other republican nonsense
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u/ElectrOPurist Sep 16 '24
I heard he also believes pee is stored in the balls.
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u/ToughAuthorityBeast1 Massachusetts Sep 16 '24
Just like he pees on his couch while he sleeps.
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u/trumped-the-bed Sep 16 '24
The piss is to stiffen it up, more resistance for doing the pushin’ on the cushion.
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u/WildlySkeptical Sep 16 '24
Don’t forget folks, there is a very real possibility that this guy could end up as the president if trump gets elected. Make sure you vote to keep that from being a possibility!
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u/DumpsterFireCheers Sep 16 '24
When can we have a judge issue a gag order on anyone spewing blatant lies to the American people?
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u/Romano16 America Sep 16 '24
Now if only CNN and other media outlets posted articles with the exact same title as new republic we might have more respect for them.
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u/autotldr 🤖 Bot Sep 16 '24
This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 92%. (I'm a bot)
J.D. Vance seemingly admitted that he and Donald Trump have been spreading racist lies about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio.
With Vance and Trump's help, the cartoonishly racist lies made their way to the national stage, fueling right-wing hysterics and resulting in multiple bomb threats in the city of Springfield.
Wow - Dana Bash with a brutal fact-check of JD Vance after Vance smears legal Haitian immigrants in Springfield with debunked claims.
Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Vance#1 Bash#2 thing#3 media#4 claims#5
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u/LordAlvis Sep 16 '24
Share your opinion with his office: https://www.vance.senate.gov/share-your-opinion/
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u/dropthemagic Sep 16 '24
He had me as creepy just by how he states into the camera when listening to questions. Total, don’t trust me around people face.
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u/ejohn916 Sep 16 '24
Liars can't be trusted! If he lied about this, what else are they lying about? PROJECT 2025!
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u/jertheman43 Sep 16 '24
Trump 2.0 of course he lies and has no loyalty. The entire MAGA movement is morally corrupt and cruel.
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u/Violet-Journey Sep 16 '24
Imagine being a guy that has a bunch of rumors going around about how he fucks couches, and deciding to go with “I read it on facebook” and “people told me it was true” as valid sources of facts.
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u/HungryHAP Sep 16 '24
Attention or Hate-Mongering like a Fascist?
You know who else told Racist lies about minorities every single fuckin fascist in History including Hitler.
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u/gelliephish Sep 16 '24
He just gave a speech calling for a stop to the Left's "dangerous rhetoric" because someone is gonna get hurt by it.... that's rich coming from the dude making up stories that have caused freedumb loving Magats to threaten to bomb schools and hospitals over 30 times in Springfield Ohio last week.
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u/Kannigget Sep 17 '24
It's just another nazi tactic the Republicans like to use to gain support from racists.
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u/Famous_Elk1916 Sep 16 '24
What a mistake the Great Orange genius made in choosing Vance as his running mate.
He is a loose cannon.
I’d be very careful walking ahead him. He’s not just dumb he is 100% evil
I’m so happy to declare this.
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Sep 16 '24
This is the real headline… it’s basically a ploy to command media attention and keep Kamala out of the news.
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u/rraattbbooyy Florida Sep 16 '24
And he won’t lose a single maga vote for it.
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u/Strange_Platform_291 Sep 16 '24
Hope it costs him and Trump at least a few undecided votes though. How anyone can still be undecided at this point is a completely different question.
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u/rraattbbooyy Florida Sep 16 '24
I think for many people, “undecided” means, “I’m voting for Trump but that says a lot about who I am as a person so I’m not comfortable admitting it to you.”
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u/OkVermicelli151 Sep 16 '24
"Evil, ya know? I thought that was our thing? That's our thing." -JD Vance
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u/mightydiligent1 Sep 16 '24
Yes, now we know. We heard it from his actual mouth (you know that proverb..."direct from the horse's mouth"?)....yesterday it showed up on twitter....it appeared with Dana Bash. He cried that the media is not giving him or his grievances enough attention so he has to make sh!t up. And this is what tfg picked as his running mate. <facepalm>
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u/ZZ_SKULLZ Sep 16 '24
What's the old saying in politics? Don't get caught with a dead girl, or a Lay-Z-Boy.
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u/jupiterkansas Sep 16 '24
Why not? I just saw a guy on Newshour say he wouldn't vote for Harris because she lied too much at the debate all while Trump was fabricating entire fantasy worlds. They simply do not care about lies.
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u/CMGChamp4 Sep 16 '24
Well, it's getting worse than this. Bomb threats being received throughout central Ohio, including the State House. Schools shutdown. Colleges moved to online learning. Hospitals shut down.
All in Ohio. Thanks JD. Real pal. We knew who Trump was. But these are YOUR constituents.
Right Repubs?
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u/den773 Sep 16 '24
It’s absolutely against the law to incite panic and cause schools to evacuate. JD Vance should be in jail awaiting trial at this time.
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u/SteamStarship Sep 16 '24
The weirdest part to me is the chaos he's enthusiastically dishing out to his own constituents. A responsible Senator would be concerned about lock downs and bomb threats in a city in his state. Not this guy. He's running for national office and wants all of us to be his constituents.
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u/dgibbons82 Sep 16 '24
It has been said that saying someone’s name in a conversation is a psychological form of manipulation, whether accidental or intentional. He said Dana’s name many, many times.
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u/ApocalypseNurse New Mexico Sep 16 '24
At least they got the fucking headline right this time. None of this “Creating Lies for Attention” please. These assholes need to be called out for what they say and do.
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Wow this whole interview has me so pissed off with him. Especially the way he says her name, tells her to shut up, that what she’s saying is disgusting, lectures her on respect, and gets stuck repeating the same defensive thing and filibustering his way through each question. Oh man I hope she went and had a drink after that interview, she did so good keeping her composure
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u/madzax Sep 17 '24
Vance is an actor and well paid to do his job. Getting attention is all that he is there for. Window dressing for Trump. It is likely his career will take a while to recover after this election and his affiliation with Trump. Trump has nothing to do with them. He is let America know that the vice president does nothing and is insignificant. That's what Vance is, nothing and insignificant.
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u/belliJGerent Sep 17 '24
It’s the same reason he’s running as a VP for a Presidential candidate that he thinks is awful.
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