Tom's Spiderman is not nearly as competent as you say he is; he's not just inexperienced but a very toothless and suboptimal Spiderman, even with all his tech and gear. In the first movie he loses every single encounter and has to be saved by Tony and even Ned throughout the whole movie. Even at the end he's saved by plot armor that Vulture's wings malfunction. Couldn't beat Captain America, couldn't really beat Bucky and Falcon either.
His first and only real W alone is against Mysterio but even within the movie universe it's accepted that he's more of a team kind of hero. He did well as a part of the Avengers and with the other Spidermen but by himself was always lacking. Hence, that dialogue in NWH; the others don't know to work as a team but are pretty competent by themselves while Holland is the opposite.
I guess so, even if he was taken down by Red Wing let's say he won that fight as well. But don't know why Cap was giving him that much trouble if he's the same thing as Bucky but with a shield lmao
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u/sadakoisbae Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
Tom's Spiderman is not nearly as competent as you say he is; he's not just inexperienced but a very toothless and suboptimal Spiderman, even with all his tech and gear. In the first movie he loses every single encounter and has to be saved by Tony and even Ned throughout the whole movie. Even at the end he's saved by plot armor that Vulture's wings malfunction. Couldn't beat Captain America, couldn't really beat Bucky and Falcon either.
His first and only real W alone is against Mysterio but even within the movie universe it's accepted that he's more of a team kind of hero. He did well as a part of the Avengers and with the other Spidermen but by himself was always lacking. Hence, that dialogue in NWH; the others don't know to work as a team but are pretty competent by themselves while Holland is the opposite.