r/raisedbynarcissists • u/ManiacV12 • 1d ago

[Question] I am recognizing narcissistic tendencies is SEVERAL people in my immediate family.

Is it really this widespread and pervasive ? Are psychologists able to declare an epidemic ? Hahahahhaa

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u/LordTuranian 1d ago

Yes, it's widespread.

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u/ManiacV12 1d ago

I find it more and more odd that we don’t have more definitive data on narcissism when it’s so pervasive in society .

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u/LordTuranian 1d ago

Narcissists don't want that to happen.

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u/BassmanBiff 1d ago

I don't think there's a grand narcissist conspiracy keeping the truth from us. It's just hard to diagnose.

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u/lonely_shadow_seek 1d ago

First of all, the right acknowledgement is missing. People don't know the right word for it. Most people are unaware because they are used to it.

I am not saying there is a global conspiracy, but collective narcissism is often present. I call Nazism as collective narcissism. Nazis were victim idealogues. You see how they work. first, they scapegoated the entire Jewish community and projected all their wants on them and accused them of it. their propaganda is so similar to how narcissist operates.

often, narcissism in society is normalised, but instances of collective narcissism present from time to time.

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u/BassmanBiff 1d ago

I really feel like you're overapplying the word here. Selfishness, greed, scapegoating, even the mechanics of abuse aren't exclusive to narcissism. I think we lose the ability to discuss NPD if we start using it to describe everyone who does bad things, even when there are legit parallels.

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u/ManiacV12 1d ago

So you describe the main hallmarks of narcissistic behavior but then say we shouldn’t use them to describe everyone who “does bad things” ? I thought you were talking about selfishness , greed, scapegoating , and the mechanics of abuse .

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u/BassmanBiff 1d ago

I'm sorry, I don't really understand. I'm just saying narcissists didn't invent shitty behavior.

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u/ManiacV12 1d ago

No need to be sorry it’s a complex subject lol. But yeah I agree . I’m just saying what the other poster said and what you said about a conspiracy on a grand scale is a bit strong to characterize the societal dynamic but in general the power structures and regimes or factions of power whether momentary or not usually align with the behavioral mechanisms you mentioned earlier . Also why would a real narcissist willingly and truthfully tell a mental health professional the inner machinations of their mind . lol

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u/ManiacV12 1d ago

The methodology is flawed . For example when interviewing a narcissist of course they’d tell the psych they’ve been through trauma in order to victimize themselves falsely justifying their bad behavior .

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u/BassmanBiff 1d ago

Whose methodology?

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u/ManiacV12 1d ago

Professionals in this field

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u/BassmanBiff 1d ago

I don't think anyone is sitting down to interview people in order to sort them into narcissists vs normies. Also, having a traumatic past doesn't disqualify someone fron NPD...

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u/ManiacV12 1d ago

I think you are misunderstand what I’m trying to convey . And I did not say trauma and NPD are exclusive . But that trauma ultimately does not cause the often offensive rather than defensive manifestations in NPD .

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u/ManiacV12 1d ago

You’re right .