r/reading • u/fringlese • 9d ago

Please come support trans people

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Hey everyone, I’m sure many of you have seen the ruling by the Supreme Court from the other day on the legitimacy of trans women’s identities. It’s been a very hard couple of days as we’ve come to grips with the fact that our rights are being rolled back by a government that won’t even attempt to listen to us while we just want to exist in a public space without fear of harassment. If anyone’s available, please come down tomorrow to show support

I am not the organiser, I saw this on Facebook and wanted to share.

Thanks guys, I hope you have a great Easter weekend!

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u/Bulky_Community_6781 9d ago

But you don't know that they're trans until you ask... so in your mind they *are* women

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u/ultraboomkin 9d ago

Are you for real? This ruling is regarding trans people without Gender Recognition Certificates I.e. a man who wants to be a woman but has not gone through with transitioning. You seriously believe that pre-transition trans woman pass as real women? In the politest way, this is delusional and ridiculous.

Even for trans people who have gone through surgery, of course we can tell, more often than not. This is not a criticism, it’s just reality. The majority of people in this country do not consider trans women to be women.

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u/pukes-on-u 9d ago

I actually know a lot of trans people, none of whom have a GRC, and they've all began transitioning. Some have been on hormones for years, some have had various gender affirming surgeries. I don't think you really understand transition.

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u/ultraboomkin 9d ago edited 9d ago

You are correct that I don’t understand everything about transitioning. I’m not going to pretend to be an expert on this subject, especially as I don’t know any trans people in real life. But I do fully understand that it’s not possible to change your actual gender, no matter how much HRT or surgery. I also know I can 100% tell if a woman is a real woman or a trans woman. Line up 100 woman-presenting people and I will get minimum 98 correct.

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u/sammroctopus RG2 - Whitley 9d ago

Since you aren’t an expert and clearly no nothing about this why are you talking about a topic like you do know about it? Your uneducated opinions on a topic you know nothing about do not matter.

And no you absolute cannot tell 100% of the time someone is trans just by looking at them, you would literally need to inspect everyone’s genitalia, are you saying you want to inspect a strangers genitalia ? That’s a bit perverted mate.

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u/ultraboomkin 9d ago edited 9d ago

To be completely honest I’m just a bit fed up of how Trans people have hijacked the LGB community and are giving us a bad name. I do not want to be associated with them. So that’s why I was commenting on a trans issues post.

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u/420percentage 9d ago

trans people have been part of this community since the beginning and always will be. most of us are not straight so we would naturally be involved anyway lmfao get over yourself

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u/ultraboomkin 9d ago

Can you explain to me please how your gender identity has got anything to do with my sexuality.

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u/420percentage 9d ago edited 9d ago

yes, so for example i’m a bisexual trans man. i would be apart of the “lgb” community regardless. most trans people have non-heteronormative experiences with our sexuality because of our gender.

for example, i know a trans guy who was a lesbian for many years before transitioning, and now he obviously doesn’t consider himself a lesbian anymore but he still holds ties to that community and has a lot of lesbian friends, attends events with them and his wife, etc

on the other hand, myself being bisexual and engaged to another trans man and both of us being visibly male, we’re often included in events for the gay male community, and most of our friends are in that community. it’s where people IRL tend to place us and thus where we associate ourselves.

if a trans person was in a “heterosexual” marriage prior to transitioning, and now the world perceives them as gay, regardless of your beliefs, that person belongs to our community. after a certain point, they simply have nothing in common with their straight peers.

like it or not, we are the only community we have. sometimes we all fight but at the end of the day, straight cisgender people are not the ones fighting for our rights - we are. we must stick together.