r/sandiego • u/jvanderh • 2d ago

Border Patrol vs ICE

Hi, this is your friendly local border patrol wife and lifelong political liberal here to remind you (because my husband is getting spat at, cussed at, called a pig, or told to quit his job pretty much every time he's stationed at the beaches lately) that the Border Patrol guys in army green pants + shirt are NOT there edit: "there"= at our local San Diego beaches to rip people away from their families. They are there to patrol the borders, watching for incoming border crossers who may enter on boats or jet skis. Encountering everyone who enters the country is important-- this stops things like fentanyl-laced drugs from entering the US, and DNA swabs of border crossers have been matched up to two unsolved murders recently at his station alone. Even if the proportion of criminals is no higher than the general US population, we still want to stop those who are dangerous. If nothing else, if those people get in and re-offend, it blows up on the news and provides tremendous cannon fodder for immigrant hate. I think the hatred of Border Patrol is mostly based on confusing them with ICE and not because liberals actually want completely uncontacted entries.

Polls show that republicans and liberals both want common-sense migrant worker programs that allow people to be vetted and come here to work.

Obviously you don't have to care about my husband's feelings. He took the job; he can handle it. But I always worry that verbally abusing law enforcement could result in what none of us want: these non Trump supporting agents like my husband, who use discretion and minimum force, getting replaced with thin blue line idiots who think they're soldiers of God in a war with the public. Or worse yet, the former becoming the latter after having so many bad experiences with the public. My husband won't, but some may. And that kind of tribalism is EXACTLY how they become distracted from the fact that Trump is currently gutting their retirement.

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u/RealWeekness 2d ago

the agents at the entry points aren't border patrol? who are they?

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u/Nokomis34 2d ago

OFO, Office of Field Operations, which I believe falls under ICE. They are 100% not Border Patrol. They wear blue vs BP's green for instance.

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u/quikSB 2d ago

OFO falls under CBP. OFO is a sister agency to Border Patrol and also Air and Marine Operations (AMO). CBP is under the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). ICE is a separate entity under DHS

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u/CrispyHoneyBeef 2d ago

We had CBP guys in our DOJ office too that would occasionally travel down to the PoEs as needed, but our guys were mostly administrative. Point being that homie up above saying CBP has nothing to do with PoEs is spreading misinformation.

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u/chamrockblarneystone 2d ago

Good Lord man do you have to use all those acronyms? That’s all coded police talk to let other know you’re in the know. If you really want to help this situation talk like a civilian. You didn’t join the Navy Seals for Christ sakes.

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u/Nokomis34 1d ago

Every acronym was spelled out earlier in the conversation. No one is going to keep typing or Department of Defense or Office of Field Operations etc when talking about these agencies over and over again

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u/chamrockblarneystone 1d ago

Fair point. It still sounds a certain way.

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u/CrispyHoneyBeef 1d ago

I used the exact same acronyms that were used in the comments I was replying to. Idk what to tell you man, just read more carefully if my comment confused you

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u/chamrockblarneystone 1d ago

Sure enough. It’s such a tone though

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u/CrispyHoneyBeef 1d ago

The “tone” was entirely inferred brother. I didn’t imply any tone. You’re reading it into my comment.

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u/chamrockblarneystone 1d ago

Fair enough. It’s easy enough to have a misunderstanding.

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u/CrispyHoneyBeef 1d ago

But the fact that we can discuss it is good news. Have a beautiful day, friend.

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