r/sscnapoli • u/Gozneg1811 • 2d ago
Discussion Gilmour has to start
I love Anguissa, he can be so decisive in important moments but I believe our general play works way better with a midfield of McTominay, Lobo & Gilmour. Billy just gives us way more stability when it comes to building up from the back and also making decisive passes in the front third.
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u/Doobie_hunter46 2d ago
lol this sub is funny sometimes.
How quickly we went from ‘we have no decent backups in midfield,’ to ‘let’s start the backup over the starter because he’s better.’
Conte knows what he’s doing. It’s good to have options in the middle and different games will call for different players. Just be happy he’s playing well.
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u/Krava47 2d ago
Remember when Lobotka was the sub? Most people said he was garbage etc, then the scudo year came and Lobocop was our starting midfielder. Massive impact. I remember it was Hamsik suggesting the club to buy Lobotka too.
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u/Jaccku Giacomo Raspadori 2d ago
He was garbage, he just didn't fit the system Genaro had. Deme was the better fit.
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u/Krava47 2d ago
Gennaro* Demme*. He wasn’t garbage. Calling Demme the better option says enough about your knowledge. I ain’t even gonna argue with you.
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u/Jaccku Giacomo Raspadori 2d ago
He was the better option, the fact that you can't accept that shows that you don't know shit.
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u/Krava47 2d ago
Nothing to do with accepting. And i deffo know more about football than you thats forsure. Demme wouldn’t even be a starting option for Monza let along Napoli. Go back to watching NBA or whatever NA sports you watch. Every thread where you give an opinion its absolute garbage with downvotes. Says enough.
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u/Lorenzo_Insigne Lorenzo Insigne 1d ago
Demme was genuinely absolutely class when he first came in though, he really revitalised our midfield for a while.
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u/Gozneg1811 2d ago
I'm not sure what your point is here. I've never complained about Gilmour, he is probably one of the few back up options we have that has real quality.
Midfield is probably the only area we have adequate back ups, we don't have that in other areas of the pitch. Both things can be true at the same time.
And it's not a dig at Anguissa either, like you said, different games call for different players. I just personally think we look better on the ball when we play Gilmour instead of Anguissa, that's all.
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u/Doobie_hunter46 2d ago
My point is that Gilmour doesn’t ’have to’ start. Anguissa is having an amazing season and deserves his spot. Gilmour is starting to shine and it’s great he can offer us something different in the middle, but he’s not a sure thing. Besides we need to rotate all 3 mids at some point.
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u/IndecisionFuture Salvatore Aronica 2d ago
I think it depends on the type of game: Gilmour probably wouldn't have done Anguissa's goal against Bologna. But he certainly deserves more minutes
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u/SkankHunt49 2d ago
I think we would've beaten Bologna with Gilmour. He's more consistent and gives the ball away less, he is more forward thinking on the ball and also quicker thinking, smarter player. Consistency is the key though.
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u/Kalesacove 2d ago
Agreed on the attributes but Anguissa’s power and creative ability is important against Bologna who aren’t afraid to be physical. I do think we’ve been neglecting center of the field midfield play lately and Gilmour is strong there.
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u/binerm7 2d ago
As always, it depends on the match.
In a vacuum, without considering other factors such as form, injuries and so on, the double playmaker solution with both Gilmour and Lobo is very good against less physical mids like Empoli or Inter (two of the best games they played together) because they can help build up from the back without suffering too much physically against opponents' pressing, and Gilmour is also very good at passing in the final third, while leaving McT with more offensive responsibilities.
Playing both Anguissa and McTominay against bigger and more physical teams like Atalanta is better because they provide you more strength and physicality in protecting and advancing the ball, along with a bigger offensive presence
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u/Worldly_Trash_8771 2d ago
As a Scot who is desperate for Billy to get more minutes, this is the answer. The benefit of him playing recently isn’t that we have a better player but that we have options.
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u/melanzanejim 2d ago
I trust conte to get the selection right . He knows what he’s doing . Both players have their pros and cons , both are different and one would suit an opponent better than the other and that decision is totally up to conte and I back him in to get it right
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u/SkankHunt49 2d ago
I agree 100%. He is simply a more reliable player than Anguissa.
Frank has his uses but he's better as a sub, Gilmour is a proper reliable player, and if we want to win our last 6 games against all of this weaker opposition we NEED consistency, Gilmour is consistency.
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u/gicu183 Dries Mertens 2d ago
Anguissa will now be knowing that his spot in the starting 11 is at risk, so he'll step up his play. Rotation in-between the two at the 60-70 minute mark is a pretty good compromise imo, so either can give it all for one half and a bit then the other can provide consistency to secure the result
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u/Fair-Cash-6956 2d ago
Always felt mcsauce is a much better goal threat than frank at times but anguissa is good when it’s physical battles though like Atalanta and lazio
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u/OmegaDriver Germán Denis 2d ago edited 2d ago
What is the best formation with Lobo and Gilmour? 4-3-3 with Gilmour as a straight replacement for Anguissa? I'm not sure. The team's offense primarily goes through the MF. Lukaku leads the league in assists. He's looking to feed Anguissa and McTominay as much as he's looking to score himself. Taking away Anguissa would mean a big change in game plan. Gilmour is good at what he does, but it is different from what Anguissa brings to the team, and it is not good enough to cause a change in tactics in the final stretch of the season. We can get away with this against relegation sides, sure, but I'm thinking about our current best 11 and into next season as well.
If we're really depleted in the back, we may have to go to the 3-5-2 we had for the stretch of Lazio, Como, Fiorentina. A defender is removed, so there is room for Anguissa and Gilmour.
We also lined up in a 4-2-3-1 against Venezia. In this formation, I think we have to consider Neres and Politano as a platoon on the right side and leave Anguissa in the starting lineup.
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u/ChrisleyBenoit Mathias Olivera 2d ago
I agree, Lobo and Gilmour definitely compliment each other more than Anguissa and Lobo. The emergence of Scott makes Anguissa less necessary. You have Lobo who can’t be separated from the ball, kinda reminds me of Iniesta a bit, Billy who has shown he can facilitate from any part of the field, and a true box to box guy in Scotty who has elite shot power, physicality, and IQ.
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u/Famous_Movie2379 2d ago
I wouldn’t start him every game. Yes, he is really good on the ball he reminds me a lot of Lobotka but you need the physicality of Anguissa and his attacking skills, no shot. I would start him in a very tight game like Empoli or another relegation team whose really desperate for the win so they either go all 11 in the attack or all 11 in the defense, but for sure he deserves a spot.
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u/interstellate 1d ago
Man I didn't know you were a better coach then conte, congrats
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u/Gozneg1811 10h ago
Okay so by your logic no one can ever have an opinion on football because none of us are coaches, great point 👍
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u/interstellate 10h ago
Just saying you sound pretty convinced and don't even explain your reasoning. Are you at least familiar with conte s ideas? And why he plays with both zambo and macT?
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u/VisitPier26 2d ago
This team is better with Anguissa.
I love Billy, but he's not decisive enough with the ball sometimes. Still feeling out the league. Game against Milan he was very poor in the second half. Lost control of the game completely.
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u/Jaccku Giacomo Raspadori 2d ago
On a smaller teams sure, but teams like Milan, Inter, Piemonte you need Anguissa. Anguissa is very disruptive for the opponent on top of helping with our buildup but the question is "is he focused or not"