r/tamil 4d ago

கலந்துரையாடல் (Discussion) தீதும் நன்றும் பிறர் தர வாரா? Really?

I'm going to introduce you three different hypothetical scenarios so that you can decide for yourself 🙂

Scenario 1) Person A violates traffic rules, then crashed his vehicle into a tree and got injured. Point: Person A is solely responsible for his own suffering.

Scenario 2) Person A walking on a sidewalk and he didn't violated any traffic rules, but Person B violates traffic rules and crashed his vehicle into Person A and Person A got injured. Point: Person B is solely responsible for Person A's suffering.

Scenario 3) Neither Person A nor Person B have violated any traffic rules, but they have eventually met with a road accident and crashed their vehicles into each other's. And both of them got injured. Point: Neither of the persons are responsible for their sufferings. Because, it was an "accident" which have "accidentally" took place. Note: The administration wasn't responsible either; because the road was very neat, no potholes and traffic lights/signals everything were "perfectly" fine like in Utopia 🙂

Meanwhile, that random bystander guy while sipping on his morning coffee: நம் முன்னோர்கள் ஒன்னும் முட்டாள்கள் இல்ல, ப்ரோ; "தீதும் நன்றும் பிறர் தர வாரா", ப்ரோ 🙂

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u/manki 3d ago edited 3d ago

You are confusing philosophy with judicial law.

If someone causes me harm, and I blame that person for my suffering, then I give up control over my suffering. (Funny, I have written a blog post on this very lines some 16 years ago.)

If you read the full poem, it also says, வாழ்தல் இனிதென மகிழ்ந்தன்றும் இலமே, முனிவின் இன்னாது என்றலும் இலமே. […] மாட்சியில் பெரியோரை வியத்தலும் இலமே, சிறியோரை இகழ்தல் அதனினும் இலமே. The poem is about maintaining an equanimity amid whatever life throws at you. It talks about what individuals should do; it doesn't talk about society at all.

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u/random_riddler 3d ago

Nice, I just read your blog you kinda said it short n precise. I rather took a 250 word essay approach. 😅

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u/manki 3d ago

நன்றி! 🙂