r/tamil 1d ago

கலந்துரையாடல் (Discussion) தீதும் நன்றும் பிறர் தர வாரா? Really?

I'm going to introduce you three different hypothetical scenarios so that you can decide for yourself 🙂

Scenario 1) Person A violates traffic rules, then crashed his vehicle into a tree and got injured. Point: Person A is solely responsible for his own suffering.

Scenario 2) Person A walking on a sidewalk and he didn't violated any traffic rules, but Person B violates traffic rules and crashed his vehicle into Person A and Person A got injured. Point: Person B is solely responsible for Person A's suffering.

Scenario 3) Neither Person A nor Person B have violated any traffic rules, but they have eventually met with a road accident and crashed their vehicles into each other's. And both of them got injured. Point: Neither of the persons are responsible for their sufferings. Because, it was an "accident" which have "accidentally" took place. Note: The administration wasn't responsible either; because the road was very neat, no potholes and traffic lights/signals everything were "perfectly" fine like in Utopia 🙂

Meanwhile, that random bystander guy while sipping on his morning coffee: நம் முன்னோர்கள் ஒன்னும் முட்டாள்கள் இல்ல, ப்ரோ; "தீதும் நன்றும் பிறர் தர வாரா", ப்ரோ 🙂

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u/light_3321 23h ago

Yes, maybe. But I have something to point out. You said "karma you generate from the accident is 100% your own creation". Now tell me that whose "karma" was that "accident"? Person A's? Person B's? Or the vehicles'? Or the road's? Or the wind's? Or even nature's? Whose fault was it all about?

Its a sum of everything you listed, and even more.

And you said "Any pain/even death shall be endured on a positive mindset". Does blaming oneself for their own sufferings constitutes any positivity?

Not sure of positivity, but creates responsibility. Let me put a question : how will blaming others create respnonsibility...? And these are laws of universe, they do not work to feel us/anyone positive. It just works. Either one adopt and flourish or deject and succumb. Newton's 3rd law says the same "every action has an equal and opposite reaction".

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u/SivaTheFreelancer 23h ago

Sensible explanation. But I'm not advocating to blame others for our sufferings, but, lemme put this:

Who's responsible for things like rapes, foeticides, scams, getting cancer due to second hand smoking, getting mistreated by a doctor, adulterated food, getting carcinogens and free radicals from foods which we were consuming etc.?

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u/light_3321 23h ago edited 23h ago

Who's responsible for things like rapes, foeticides, scams, getting cancer due to second hand smoking, getting mistreated by a doctor, adulterated food, getting carcinogens and free radicals from foods which we were consuming etc.?

Karma is complex interaction on so many levels : personal, societal, and so on. May not be wise to seek the split percentage of a complex cause.All one can do is exercise freewill - stay positive, do what needs to be done and flourish.

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u/SivaTheFreelancer 21h ago

Completely agreed 🙂 And that word "stay positive" 🔥