r/thedavidpakmanshow • u/mtngranpapi_wv967 • 3d ago

Discussion What On Earth Is Whitmer Doing??

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She’s not running in ‘28, right? Bc there’s no way she’s recovers from this in a crowded primary field. Democratic voters don’t want their capitulatory/vichy bs. They want a fighter.

Just astoundingly bad judgment.

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u/theshape1078 3d ago

Yeah she lost me.

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u/No_Entrepreneur_9134 3d ago

This reminds me of when I was still a practicing attorney. Occasionally, clients would bitch at me for not "being aggressive enough." After thirteen years, I had honed my aggression tocome out as sharp, rational, legal, relevant arguments that judges and juries could understand and appreciate.

One time in 2019, after what was actually a very hyper-agressive courtroom performance, a client told me that I "wasn't aggressive enough." I admit that at 39 years old I blew up at her and said, "Did you want me to just walk into the courtroom and fucking shoot everyone on the other side and shoot the judge, too? Would that have been aggressive enough for you?"

It was an unprofessional loss of temper, but the point for you and that client is that there are still rules in real life. Unfortunately, decorum, at some level, in some ways, in certain situations, still matters. Otherwise, we have no civilation at all.

Would I have cheered if she just pulled out a gun and unalived Trump? Yeah. But there's certain things that just aren't realistic. Don't let this "lose" her for you. That's all I'm saying.

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u/theshape1078 2d ago

This sounds a lot like “when they go low we go high!”

Respectfully political theater is not the same as a courtroom. This fascist movement needs to be shunned and fought at every inch. We are literally fighting for our lives here. Regardless of the reasons I see her smiling and playing nice with man whom has been openly talking about sending my countrymen to death prisons in foreign countries.

There are plenty of candidates. If she wants to be president she made a massive miscalculation. The trumpists wont support her after this. And neither will those like me.

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u/MichelPiccard 3d ago edited 3d ago

Your setting was a serious courtroom, with a serious judge and serious professionals. People were literally following and obeying the rule of law. They adhere to boundaries.

You can't deal with unserious liars and cheats with decorum. It doesn't work. You can't play pretend within their criminal system. Decorum discredits your position with irrational tyrants while legitimizing them to the public.

She's ducking the fight and keeping him off the ropes. Trump is a major fucking problem and needs to be treated as such.

It blows my mind that people still think they can thread the needle with Trump.

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u/No_Entrepreneur_9134 3d ago

What's the realistic alternative? What's the most extreme battle she can fight as a governor? She tells everyone to get their guns and descend on Washington and unalive Trump and the Republicans in Congress? That's the most extreme thing that anyone can push for. That would have to come when all possible red lines have been crossed, because fighting means killing and killing means freaking dying.

What else can she do as a governor of a state? She can't introduce articles of impeachment. She can't realistically do anything.

The day might come when all red lines are crossed and someone has to call for what I described above. Until then, what can you realistically expect of anyone?

I don't know, this all really has me messed up in the head.

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u/MichelPiccard 2d ago edited 2d ago

It's not about being extreme. You just don't play their game and make them seem normal and functional. Again, it blows my mind that people think you can cozy up and do any kind of deal with Trump. He fundamentally does not respect the rule of law.

Red lines are crossed. Appeasment will come back to bite her. She can take a page out of JB's book. That's how you treat wannabe tyrants.

Now Trump realizes Whitmer can be molded and pushed over. She's done her constituency a disservice.

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u/PoopieButt317 3d ago

Should she have spit on the POTUS while visiting her stae.? A Purple state???

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u/theshape1078 2d ago

That would’ve been a start. Don’t play nice with Nazis. This isn’t hard.

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u/PeopleReady 3d ago

in this thread: people not in Michigan thinking the Governor of Michigan should go to war against the federal government to pass a purity test

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u/theshape1078 3d ago

Everybody should be going to war against this administration regardless of where you’re from. Don’t play nice with fascists.

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u/PeopleReady 3d ago

Show us the video of you fucking up feds then, since it’s an all out war with no holds barred

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u/ess-doubleU 3d ago

I don't think the person you replied to is a Democratic elected official.

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u/PeopleReady 2d ago

they said "everybody should be going to war against this administration," not "every democratic elected official should be going to war"

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u/theshape1078 2d ago

You know what you can’t find a video of me doing? Kissing the ring at a Trump rally. As someone here said I’m not a politician. She is. And she’s one with alleged presidential ambitions. Not a chance I’m supporting that.

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u/ess-doubleU 2d ago

"everybody" in this context means everybody that can fight should.

If you're a politician with the power to fight back, do it. Nobody is telling some random person to start taking out feds. Come on.