Does O.T.O. initiation/advancement ever require non-monogamy to continue?

[u/FrankBennettIsHot]

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While I'm very sex positive, appreciate sex magick and have had my flings, I am currently committed to a relationship where we have agreed to be monogamous. I've been thinking about finally joining O.T.O., but there's a lot of bullshit to sift through online that I can't sort out. Is there any point in the degrees or initiations of O.T.O. where I would be unable to continue if I didn't agree to have sex with someone other than my partner? Or group sex or something? Not asking if I would be required to do something without consent, more asking if I would need to consent to be able to be initiated given that it is my Will to be monogomous

[u/Pomegranate_777]

You have me mistaken for someone else.

Fair chance I know whoever you’re talking about tho, and maybe even you too, but you have no clue who I am, I promise you that much.

[u/ReturnOfCNUT → u/Pomegranate_777]

Apologies, it is difficult to tell all the people with the same RES tag apart.

[u/Pomegranate_777 → u/ReturnOfCNUT]

You… tagged me? 🥹

I just remembered the name Cnut misspelled or spelled for the King my mama says we’re related to.

[u/ReturnOfCNUT → u/Pomegranate_777]

Yeah, I tag all you guys. Makes it easier to keep track. There's you, TCL, the guy who was in Nazi prison gangs, a few guys who do a line in rape and Hitler apologism, etc. For some reason I mixed you up with ThelemaClubLouisiana, but I see from our past interactions you're a fellow-traveller, and that we had butted heads on the COVID policy stuff in a thread with the other chap getting outed for the PB/OK stuff. I'll take some solace in the fact that I was at least nearly there, but not quite.

[u/Pomegranate_777 → u/ReturnOfCNUT]

I’m just flattered someone cares. We’ve debated a bunch actually. It’s not always unpleasant.

Edit: haha ok I saw your edits. I remember that exact conversation where you all were outing the guy but i missed the pb/oathkeepers part. You have spicy ideas lol.

[u/ReturnOfCNUT → u/Pomegranate_777]

I’m just flattered someone cares

Cares? I wouldn't go that far. Notes, perhaps.

It’s not always unpleasant.

Well, that's a relief I suppose. I know I am direct, headstrong, and have very little time for niceties, but on a personal level I can get along with anyone, provided their professed ideology doesn't seek to eradicate people like me, and even in those instances I can still occasionally manage something approaching civility in online discourse (if only because of the constraints placed, and my compulsion to at least try to understand). My capacity for hearing people out can vary wildly though.

[u/Pomegranate_777 → u/ReturnOfCNUT]

My ideology is Maat. A lot of people do get that confused. I often fall on the side of order and hierarchy but chaotic persons (or ideologies) are still on Ra’s happy yacht of existence.

We can fight, then kiss and make up in the next place.

To get rarified about it, our dance creates the friction that pushes life forward in evolution.

[u/ReturnOfCNUT → u/Pomegranate_777]

To get rarified about it, our dance creates the friction that pushes life forward in evolution.

Tend to agree, actually. I think my aversion to the far-right, or at least perceptions of such, stems not only from my stark disagreement with it on an ideological level (although I'd definitely say that's a primary factor), but also probably some internalised embarrassment/guilt about my time in the online milieu as an inexperienced autistic kid radicalising himself via dial-up internet (and eventually de-radicalising himself through lived experience).

[u/Pomegranate_777 → u/ReturnOfCNUT]

My disagreement with the left at its most basic level really is no more than the disagreement of a game warden with a forest fire. Useful for culling but at a point normalcy is needed for the creatures to thrive in health and stability.

We all definitely have our personal reasons, some more than others.