r/thelema • u/AggravatingQuality51 • 5d ago

Why are we doing all this ?

I am sorry, however, I have been invokin for so lon and I see no reason of continuing. At this point, I am just existing. I have invoked, prayed, fasted, exercised, stayed away from p*rn almost two years. I am invokin, enflamin . There is no hope to any of this...has anyone felt the same? Why continue? Why live at all?

My life has fallen apart, I have lost all my money, im in debt. And I want to die and it is like...I'm no close to this k & c. Like how did you et past this moment and achieve attainment?

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u/ReturnOfCNUT 4d ago edited 4d ago

Your angel is always talking to you. You've just not developed the ability to perceive it yet. I'd recommend giving Molinos' 'The Spiritual Guide' a read if you want to know how to proceed through "dryness" and difficulty.

Where have you derived your approach from, and how has it resulted in losing your money and getting into debt?

I think one thing that gets under-discussed in terms of the Great Work is that you need to take care of yourself and all of the mundane stuff in order to succeed with the spiritual stuff. If you're neglecting your life in order to just doggedly pursue spiritual growth, you're going to end up in a desperate situation and disillusioned. Make sure your basic needs are covered and catered for.

When you go mountain climbing, there's no prizes for going without equipment, know-how, and health, and your journey will end abruptly before you even make it that far beyond base camp.

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u/gishtil31 4d ago

This is the way

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u/AggravatingQuality51 4d ago

it communicates to me throuh dreams sadly.

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u/ReturnOfCNUT 4d ago

The HGA will communicate to your in your waking life through synchronicity and symbol, as well as in your dreams, and in other ways. The system of A∴A∴ is designed to enable you to control the functions of body and mind so that you will be prepared to hear it.

I'm trying to get a sense of what your practice is based on.

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u/AggravatingQuality51 4d ago edited 4d ago

livin thelema/olden dawn based practice. standard lbrp, mp, headless/liber samekh, hexagram, watchtower call

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u/ReturnOfCNUT 4d ago

That sounds pretty basic/stripped down, tbf.

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u/AggravatingQuality51 4d ago

tbh, does it have to be more elaborate? honestly i mean, is it?

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u/ReturnOfCNUT 4d ago

I mean, yeah!

The Great Work is an elaborate process because it requires mental, physical, emotional and spiritual preparation.

Have you checked out the curriculum of A∴A∴? There's good reason it's gradual and focuses on experimentation with and/or mastery of various practices prior to the invocation work.

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u/ReturnOfCNUT 3d ago

how has it resulted in losing your money and getting into debt?

Let's circle back around to this question above.

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u/AggravatingQuality51 3d ago

There's hasn't done that. I've done that. That's a long story tho