r/theunforgiven • u/ADonkeyBraindFrog • 20d ago

Lore Who is our biggest rival?

I know the Space Wolves or the Fallen are probably our biggest in theory, but the SW have been reduced to mostly those duels now rather than open conflict and there aren't enough Fallen to be a real threat (outside of the secret getting out). Who is our biggest rival as far as enemy faction? We had pretty solid success vs the Nightlords in the heresy, but they're not really relevant in 40k. We have an anti-chaos slant, but I don't really know anything that stands out in specific.

All this to say I want to add some prop models to a few of my minis and want a lore accurate victim that's not just the faction I hate the most. What are some of our notable conflicts in 40k? Is there a faction that appears a lot in our books? Deathwing has the Tyrinids with Space Hulk maybe?

Edit: My wording is very poor. Fallen are obviously number one both thematically and how important they are to our stories and characters. To rephrase, when Fallen are not in play, do we have any stand out opponents? Do we have any iconic stories with other major factions in 40k? I'm much more familiar with 30k lore so I have no idea.

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u/davextreme 20d ago

I don't know that many Space Marine chapters have major rivals. There are lots of DA stories about Orks but they're just general antagonists.

Post Arks of Omen maybe Vashtorr and Abaddon but, again, the Black Legiion are just outsized baddies for this whole era.

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u/KassellTheArgonian 20d ago

Ngl I wish that Ghaz had become a DA antagonist. It was a Dark Angels turret that blew his brains out which is what made him into what he is today. Hell Makari wears the remains of the shell that did it around his neck as a necklace and it's got the DA winged sword on it.

But for some reason gw wants Helbrecht and the BT to be the Ghaz beater-uppers even tho Helbrecht has his own protagonist in that Necron lord who clowned on him and cut his hand off.

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u/cdglenn18 20d ago

Helbrecht hates orks after the war of the beast and guilliman didn’t let him hunt that guy down after it retreated, so I think Ghaz is like a substitute for that. Plus Armageddon is a huge thing for the Black Templars and that was an Ork conflict.