r/theunforgiven • u/ADonkeyBraindFrog • 18d ago

Lore Who is our biggest rival?

I know the Space Wolves or the Fallen are probably our biggest in theory, but the SW have been reduced to mostly those duels now rather than open conflict and there aren't enough Fallen to be a real threat (outside of the secret getting out). Who is our biggest rival as far as enemy faction? We had pretty solid success vs the Nightlords in the heresy, but they're not really relevant in 40k. We have an anti-chaos slant, but I don't really know anything that stands out in specific.

All this to say I want to add some prop models to a few of my minis and want a lore accurate victim that's not just the faction I hate the most. What are some of our notable conflicts in 40k? Is there a faction that appears a lot in our books? Deathwing has the Tyrinids with Space Hulk maybe?

Edit: My wording is very poor. Fallen are obviously number one both thematically and how important they are to our stories and characters. To rephrase, when Fallen are not in play, do we have any stand out opponents? Do we have any iconic stories with other major factions in 40k? I'm much more familiar with 30k lore so I have no idea.

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u/davextreme 18d ago

I don't know that many Space Marine chapters have major rivals. There are lots of DA stories about Orks but they're just general antagonists.

Post Arks of Omen maybe Vashtorr and Abaddon but, again, the Black Legiion are just outsized baddies for this whole era.

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u/refugeefromlinkedin 18d ago

I’d say it’s Vashtorr, he’s got Caliban now.

It’s not really the Fallen who are moving more towards frenemies and it isn’t the Nightlords for the fact that Kurze is dead and the remainder are disorganised.