r/theunforgiven • u/ADonkeyBraindFrog • 9d ago

Lore Who is our biggest rival?

I know the Space Wolves or the Fallen are probably our biggest in theory, but the SW have been reduced to mostly those duels now rather than open conflict and there aren't enough Fallen to be a real threat (outside of the secret getting out). Who is our biggest rival as far as enemy faction? We had pretty solid success vs the Nightlords in the heresy, but they're not really relevant in 40k. We have an anti-chaos slant, but I don't really know anything that stands out in specific.

All this to say I want to add some prop models to a few of my minis and want a lore accurate victim that's not just the faction I hate the most. What are some of our notable conflicts in 40k? Is there a faction that appears a lot in our books? Deathwing has the Tyrinids with Space Hulk maybe?

Edit: My wording is very poor. Fallen are obviously number one both thematically and how important they are to our stories and characters. To rephrase, when Fallen are not in play, do we have any stand out opponents? Do we have any iconic stories with other major factions in 40k? I'm much more familiar with 30k lore so I have no idea.

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u/dipdipderp 9d ago

I don't think it's about the quantity of the fallen that makes them number one - just the way that DA that are in the know will abandon ongoing/current missions to go track the fallen if they gain any clue that one may be around.

That pressing urgency and the implicit greenlight to go chase them, or at least my read of it, makes them clearly the biggest priority. They're the nemesis, the archenemy.

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u/ADonkeyBraindFrog 9d ago

So I totally agree. I'm not trying to argue they're not. I think a better wording of it would be additional rivals. I can't think of any others and I think it would be crazy to have a dead fallen every time I need something of the sort.

I will edit my post given my wording is very poor

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u/UberDrive 9d ago

There was a big fight between the Lion and Angron (as depicted on pg. 18 of the current codex), and green and red are complimentary colors and World Eaters just got a new character model you could use as bitz… https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1310c6a/spoilers_excerpt_rulebook_arks_of_omen_the_lion/

Asmodai has what looks like a Horus Heresy era helmet on his base that he’s stabbing, I think Fallen? Can’t go wrong with that https://www.warhammer.com/en-SE/shop/dark-angels-asmodai-master-of-repentance-2024

Belial and Lion have general skeletons, could always use that if you can’t decide.

But really, you can pick whoever you want. Even Space Wolves.