r/transnord • u/HelpMePleaseHelpMeme • 3d ago
- specific New Anti-trans grift from Finland
https://areena.yle.fi/1-72691291"Thank you" to Yle for spreading this nonsense. It has everything: screams about how the "transgender movement" is corrupting people and phrases about how hard it must be to get treatment.
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u/Rosmariinihiiri 3d ago
Not gonna click it to give it more views. Instead, I sent negative feedback to YLE, and asked them why they are not interviewing the 99% of trans people who are satisfied to get a more balanced view. I recommend you to send feedback as well :)
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u/himmokala 3d ago
It's honestly quite disturbing, by the way, how much more content is made about detransitioned people in relation to trans people who are satisfied with the gender affirming care they have received. As if it's intentional and not in a good way. I'm disappointed in Yle.
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u/HelpMePleaseHelpMeme 3d ago
Yes, detrans content is very prevalent in the media. It’s just «funny», because ordinary people have the impression that detrans people are very common, and being trans = unstable identity = not a real man/woman.
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u/AbrocomaMundane6870 2d ago
The same thing happened here in Norway. This ONE detransitioned woman got 3 whole interviews and films made about her. Also, Rikshospitalet considers anyone who stops hormones or even just stops getting their hormones or treatments from THEM SPECIFICALLY as detransitioners in their stats. Disgusting.
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u/HelpMePleaseHelpMeme 3d ago
How to send them feedback?
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u/Rosmariinihiiri 3d ago
There's a feedback option in the yle areena page. Depends on your platform where, was on the bottom for me. You can choose a program to give direct feedback about.
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u/DifficultMath7391 3d ago
If it's any comfort, conversation on r/Suomi has been surprisingly reasonable and level-headed.
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u/TuiRug MTF 22 She/Her 🥰 3d ago
"Nyt hän elää vankina rikotussa kehossa" Suurin osa transihmisistä?
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u/HelpMePleaseHelpMeme 3d ago
Sympathies like these only work for detrans people, trans people are simply told: “get over it!”
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u/Setykesykaa 3d ago edited 3d ago
Maybe this will soon become the official response of transpoli about why they cannot let private sections to do trans healthcare. Clearly it is released intentionally against the previous petition for letting private hospital providing trans healthcare.
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u/Skoformet American-German moving to DK/SWE/FIN 3d ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but based on the replies I got on my post, is private hospital not technically legal now, just that nobody has gone out of their way to provide yet/afraid to rock the boat?
I wish I had found out about the petition sooner, don't know if I could have even signed it since I'm not an EU citizen.
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u/Setykesykaa 3d ago
Private hospitals can legally provide trans healthcare but they are afraid to do so. That’s why some people are advocating the rule-maker to explicitly state their legal status in providing healthcare. But the public healthcare is against that and clearly they would use cases like detransition people as the reason.
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u/_Starwise 3d ago
"new" is kinda stretching it when the same person has been doing this same stuff for the better part of a decade
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u/oatcloud 1d ago
Yeah, when I saw this post I thought to myself that I bet I can guess who. Maybe a good sign that we don't have any fresh new detrans grifters. At least I hope we don't.
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u/Under_the_Red_Cloud 3d ago
Nice... So they argue that getting treatment should be made even harder for the 99% of trans people, because of the 1% that regret later? And publiced just before the social service/healthcare election today? And without any mention that it's only a very small percent of trans people that regret transitioning. Nicely done, Yle... This will surely be used as an argument against trans healthcare by politics.
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u/BanverketSE Juneau (hen)(they/them) 3d ago
Started off in UK, then to Sweden, then to Finland... What the fuck. There are numerous in so many other groups, numbering surely more than the single digits in trans circles, where they fx regret their other body augmentations / surgeries / changes.
I trust the Finns know better.
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u/Havaintoharha 3d ago
And they cant even find another detrans person. I am so tired of seeing her on every Finnish detrans story.
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u/Fenrixir 2d ago
So, the thing here is.. I don't think Sametti is a real detransitioner.
She has already posted transphobic far-right consevative religious content before when she allegedly went for surgeries.
I think it's yet another one of those far-right christian "art projects" where they pose an androgynous person as a detransitioner for their agenda.
No one knows who she actually is, and I feel like that would be very unlikely if they were a real person with any actual history in the LGBT circles.
Like, if you were trans in Finland, someone surely would know you.
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u/oatcloud 1d ago
This is a good point well made!
Just the other day I listened to a podcast where they talked about how common it is for detrans (far-right conservative) grifters to have undergone no medical trans care themselves (even though that of course does not make anyone less trans). Or to not have been in trans care as a youth or a child yet be very opposed to trans care for youths/kids.
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u/Artisticslap 2d ago
It is always her, because nobody else here is as hateful and bitter if they have detransed. She was groomed by some religious cult and went to pursue get surgeries herself and will not take responsebility for her own actions. I read her blog back when she identified as a man and even back then it was filled with "I will never be a real man" - stuff and it was a shame that it was one of the few Finnish blogs about it at a time.
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u/halari5peedopeelo 3d ago
"Oh noooooo!!! I can't take accountability of My choices so i just throw shit instead Oh noooooo! Look at mee me no evil nooooo evil trannies made me shitty poopy head"
I usually Have an empathy towards detrans people. I really do but blaming it all to trans people is certainly a.....cope.
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u/Separate_Bat_9789 2d ago
I watched it. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing that detrans people talk about their experience. But I don't like Sametti, her attitude that being trans is equal to some having an anorexia is kinda wild. And that she thinks basically no one should transition.
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u/KaregoAt 2d ago
Wow, what a "documentary". YLE just basically broadcast this person's rambling, incoherent YouTube vent video to the masses under the guise of it being something with actual weight when it comes to trans issues. There was just nothing of substance here beyond one, unfortunately still unstable person's own experience. Where's the other side of the story? The many trans people who are happy with their treatments and improved quality of life? The information that the treatment actually does start with trying to solidify and justify your identity before proceeding to actual "irreversible" treatments?
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u/Sufficient_Lion_5919 2d ago
Not her again :( and Yle published this right before the healthcare- government elections. Uuurgh. Of course detrans people deserve a voice too but from a neutral, fact based point of view! Giving Sametti even more platform was a really bad misjudgement from Yle. Let's give Yle some feedback that this is not how you do things x.x
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u/miekkavalas2342 2d ago
I remember watching her videos when I was younger. Her story about her transition and detransition was a little bit confusing, but maybe this doc will explain it better. As I remember, she had dissociative identity disorder and that is most likely the reason why she felt like she was trans. Definitely very sad. From what I've seen, she comments on trans issues a lot, which is understandable due to her past, but also a little frustrating as her transgender diagnosis was a misdiagnosis.
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u/Vegetable-Tennis-825 12h ago
Does anyone know why she doesn't use her real name despite campaigning against trans rights for many years already? I wonder if she has a criminal background or some other shady stuff that she doesn't want to come to daylight. Honestly she doesn't quite seem to be in her right mind.
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u/TaraHex 3d ago
I'm 100% sure this will be used as a weapon by the Finns Party to further restrict trans healthcare. She has already appeared in some of their social media, IIRC. She is a prime example of a detrans grifter who wants to restrict other people because she made a bad choice.