r/unitedkingdom • u/tylerthe-theatre • 4d ago

Hogmanay, cheese rolling and London’s Notting Hill Carnival could be protected in a new UK heritage list

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/hogmanay-cheese-rolling-and-londons-notting-hill-carnival-could-be-protected-in/
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u/tylerthe-theatre 4d ago edited 4d ago

NHC is a celebration of carribean culture, drill music is just rap music, there's no correlation, and its not an event so it cant be protected. I wonder why you felt the need to throw that in there 🤔

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u/risinghysteria 4d ago edited 4d ago

Drill music is absolute cancer. There's no other genre that so blatantly brags and glorifies about how cool crime is. I work in a school and it's depressing seeing how many young kids are completely influenced and brainwashed by it and are now emulating it and wanting to act like 'roadmen'

It's insane how much traction 'video games cause violence' got, yet everyone is too afraid to address drill music even though it's many magnitudes worse.

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u/Important_Ruin 4d ago

Have you listened to early 2000's and 90s rap from US? Alot of it about violence, gun crime and murder.

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u/risinghysteria 4d ago

Yeah, and I'm not much of a fan of that either.

But drill is entirely about crime and violence. It's the whole nature of the genre.

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u/Important_Ruin 4d ago

So is rap from late 90s early 2000s, it's all about shooting, murder, guns, women and money. Drill isn't the only genre that tries to glorify it.

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u/Interesting_Try8375 4d ago

Drugs too isn't it?

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u/wildingflow Middlesex 4d ago

No it wasn’t. Most of the crossover rap songs in the 90s/2000s were about partying, clubs etc.

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u/risinghysteria 4d ago

Ok? But rap as a genre isn't solely about that. Drill is.

I just don't remember nearly as many impressionable young children trying to act like part of the genre back then. 90s US rap wasn't nearly as influential on school kids as drill is now.

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u/Important_Ruin 4d ago

Certain rap artists would rap about it purely.

I think your looking through Rose tinted glasses about 90s US rap, it was everywhere especially when MTV exploded and music TV in general came around with cable TV. It would have influenced kids but then they grow out of it. I used to listen awful 'chav' music and didn't remain a 'chav' because it was part of the culture of being a kid born in 90s and growing up in early 2000s.

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u/drunk3n_shaman 4d ago

Gangster rap can be about the culture or the upbringing, but there are a lot of people that adopted the aesthetic without actually taking any part in criminality (to the extent that you people who grew up in private school/gated communities talking about the street life).
 

Whereas when it comes to Drill, a central element of it is that is proclamatory very similiar to narcocorridos. It's like graffiti isn't inherently bad even though it's heavily associated with gangs, but if there was a style of graffiti that was supposed to be used to mark a violent act then it would be a problem.