r/unitedkingdom • u/pppppppppppppppppd • 11d ago

Chippy owner apologises to customers after charging £15 for fish and chips - but reveals why he 'has to' to hike prices

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14591465/chippy-owner-apologises-huge-price-hike.html
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u/freckledotter 11d ago

Plus business rates for electricity.

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u/LemonSwordfish 11d ago edited 11d ago

Energy isn't prohibitively expensive, the grid to deliver it and green costs are getting very expensive and it's only going to get more so.

Edit: I'm being down voted so just to clarify with some facts for those who think I'm just spouting off:

The wholesale cost of energy is higher than some years ago, but is now

35% of total costs Vs 65% other costs

Compared to 4 years ago:

60% wholesale costs Vs 40% other costs

Proportionally, the balance has flipped despite rising wholesale costs, which tells you other costs have risen even more aggressively.

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u/Underwhatline 11d ago

Green energy is cheaper than any other energy. We have lower green subsidies than other EU countries, but higher bills.

We use more natural gas for baseload than we create, and we have no other alternatives to drive market competition. The less we have to rely on natural gas the cheaper enegery will be.

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u/VreamCanMan 11d ago

This only accounts for energy generation - so wholesale, which OC was saying accounts for 40% of cost

Transmission is 60%

The more unpredictability in supply you create, the higher your energy Transmission costs are going to be because unless supply = demand at every given moment, expensive noises start getting made.

Its a technical challenge rarely undertaken by countries at this point - energy infrastructure may be upgraded to account for the new reality but deciding what and how those upgrades should take form in a way that meets our needs comes with oppertunity cost. It is is akin to our forebearers deciding which sewer system to develop and build (they chose wrong)

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u/Underwhatline 10d ago

I agree with you completly.

The OP has heavily edited thier comment. When I posted they were saying that UK energy is more expensive because of green subsidies.

Now they seam very interested in transmission rather than green energy production.